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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, andrew@lunn.ch,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com, calvin.johnson@oss.nxp.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 07/11] net: phy: reset invalid phy reads of 0 back to 0xffffffff
Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:20:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200525082045.GG1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6d71908-58a0-96c9-b046-9a4739cc7bcd@arm.com>

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:20:01PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 5/23/20 1:44 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 04:30:55PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> > > MMD's in the device list sometimes return 0 for their id.
> > > When that happens lets reset the id back to 0xfffffff so
> > > that we don't get a stub device created for it.
> > > 
> > > This is a questionable commit, but i'm tossing it out
> > > there along with the comment that reading the spec
> > > seems to indicate that maybe there are further registers
> > > that could be probed in an attempt to resolve some futher
> > > "bad" phys. It sort of comes down to do we want unused phy
> > > devices floating around (potentially unmatched in dt) or
> > > do we want to cut them off early and let DT create them
> > > directly.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean "stub device" or "unused phy devices
> > floating around" - the individual MMDs are not treated as separate
> > "phy devices", but as one PHY device as a whole.
> > 
> 
> Well, I guess its clearer to say phy/mmd devices with a phy_id=0. Which is a
> problem if we don't have DT overriding the phy_id for a given address.
> Although AFAIK given a couple of the /sys/bus/mdio_bus/devices lists I've
> seen, and after studying this code for a while now, I think "bogus" phy's
> might be getting created*. I was far to easy, to upset the cart when I was
> hacking on this set, and end up with a directory chuck full of phys.
> 
> So this gets close to one of the questions I asked in the cover letter. This
> patch and 09/11 serve to cut off possibly valid phy's which are failing to
> identify themselves using the standard registers. Which per the 802.3 spec
> there is a blurb about 0 in the id registers for some cases. Its not really
> a critical problem for ACPI machines to have these phys around (OTOH, there
> might be issues with c22 phys on c45 electrical buses that respond to c45
> reg requests but don't set the c22 regs flag, I haven't seen that yet.).

If you have a classical clause 22 PHY on a clause 45 bus, it isn't
going to respond to clause 45 cycles, so it isn't going to respond to
a request to read the devices-in-package register, so there is no
"c22 regs" flag.

> I
> considered dropping this patch, and 9/11 was a last minute addition. I kept
> it because I was worried all those extra "reserved" MMDs would end up with
> id = 0's in there and break something.
> 
> * In places where there isn't actually a phy, likely a large part of the
> problem was clearing the c22 bit, which allowed 0xFFFFFFFF returns to slip
> through the devices list.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-25  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-22 21:30 [RFC 00/11] Make C45 autoprobe more robust Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 01/11] net: phy: Don't report success if devices weren't found Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:46     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  9:45       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:02         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 21:07           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:59             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 02/11] net: phy: Simplify MMD device list termination Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:36   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:48     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 03/11] net: phy: refactor c45 phy identification sequence Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 15:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-23 17:16     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 17:32     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 19:12       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-23 18:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-23 19:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-23 20:01       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:37         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 04/11] net: phy: Handle c22 regs presence better Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:37   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  3:34     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  9:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 10:06       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:51         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 22:01           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 22:22             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:09               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:22                 ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:33                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:42                     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:46                       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:57                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:16             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 22:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 22:17             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:06               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:07               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:12                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:46                   ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:47                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 05/11] net: phy: Scan the entire MMD device space Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 06/11] net: phy: Hoist no phy detected state Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 07/11] net: phy: reset invalid phy reads of 0 back to 0xffffffff Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  4:20     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 08/11] net: phy: Allow mdio buses to auto-probe c45 devices Jeremy Linton
2020-05-24 14:44   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25  4:28     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:25       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 13:43         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 22:09         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 22:41           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 09/11] net: phy: Refuse to consider phy_id=0 a valid phy Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 10/11] net: example acpize xgmac_mdio Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:48   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 11/11] net: example xgmac enable extended scanning Jeremy Linton

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