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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Anchal Agarwal <anchalag@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] xen-blkfront: add callbacks for PM suspend and hibernation]
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 10:35:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200617083528.GW735@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200616214925.GA21684@dev-dsk-anchalag-2a-9c2d1d96.us-west-2.amazon.com>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 09:49:25PM +0000, Anchal Agarwal wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 09:05:48AM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 11:33:52PM +0000, Agarwal, Anchal wrote:
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> > >     > +             xenbus_dev_error(dev, err, "Freezing timed out;"
> > >     > +                              "the device may become inconsistent state");
> > >
> > >     Leaving the device in this state is quite bad, as it's in a closed
> > >     state and with the queues frozen. You should make an attempt to
> > >     restore things to a working state.
> > >
> > > You mean if backend closed after timeout? Is there a way to know that? I understand it's not good to
> > > leave it in this state however, I am still trying to find if there is a good way to know if backend is still connected after timeout.
> > > Hence the message " the device may become inconsistent state".  I didn't see a timeout not even once on my end so that's why
> > > I may be looking for an alternate perspective here. may be need to thaw everything back intentionally is one thing I could think of.
> > 
> > You can manually force this state, and then check that it will behave
> > correctly. I would expect that on a failure to disconnect from the
> > backend you should switch the frontend to the 'Init' state in order to
> > try to reconnect to the backend when possible.
> > 
> From what I understand forcing manually is, failing the freeze without
> disconnect and try to revive the connection by unfreezing the
> queues->reconnecting to backend [which never got diconnected]. May be even
> tearing down things manually because I am not sure what state will frontend
> see if backend fails to to disconnect at any point in time. I assumed connected.
> Then again if its "CONNECTED" I may not need to tear down everything and start
> from Initialising state because that may not work.
> 
> So I am not so sure about backend's state so much, lets say if  xen_blkif_disconnect fail,
> I don't see it getting handled in the backend then what will be backend's state?
> Will it still switch xenbus state to 'Closed'? If not what will frontend see, 
> if it tries to read backend's state through xenbus_read_driver_state ?
> 
> So the flow be like:
> Front end marks XenbusStateClosing
> Backend marks its state as XenbusStateClosing
>     Frontend marks XenbusStateClosed
>     Backend disconnects calls xen_blkif_disconnect
>        Backend fails to disconnect, the above function returns EBUSY
>        What will be state of backend here?

Backend should stay in state 'Closing' then, until it can finish
tearing down.

>        Frontend did not tear down the rings if backend does not switches the
>        state to 'Closed' in case of failure.
> 
> If backend stays in CONNECTED state, then even if we mark it Initialised in frontend, backend

Backend will stay in state 'Closing' I think.

> won't be calling connect(). {From reading code in frontend_changed}
> IMU, Initialising will fail since backend dev->state != XenbusStateClosed plus
> we did not tear down anything so calling talk_to_blkback may not be needed
> 
> Does that sound correct?

I think switching to the initial state in order to try to attempt a
reconnection would be our best bet here.

Thanks, Roger.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-03 23:33 [PATCH 06/12] xen-blkfront: add callbacks for PM suspend and hibernation] Agarwal, Anchal
2020-06-04  7:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-16 21:49   ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-16 22:30     ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-17  8:38       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-17  8:35     ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2020-06-19 23:43       ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-22  8:38         ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-23  0:43           ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-23  8:19             ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-25 18:36               ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-26  9:12                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-29 19:20                   ` Anchal Agarwal
2020-06-30  8:30                     ` Roger Pau Monné

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