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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, sdf@google.com, jacob.e.keller@intel.com,
	vadfed@fb.com, johannes@sipsolutions.net, jiri@resnulli.us,
	dsahern@kernel.org, fw@strlen.de, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/4] ynl: YAML netlink protocol descriptions
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:01:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220811080152.2dbd82c2@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220810214701.46565016@kernel.org>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 21:47:01 -0700
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 21:15:34 -0700 Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > Would rather this be part of iproute2 rather than requiring it
> > to be maintained separately and part of the kernel tree.  
> 
> I don't understand what you're trying to say. What is "this", 
> what is "separate" from what?

I am saying that ynl could live as a standalone project or as
part of the iproute2 tools collection.

> 
> Did I fall victim of the "if the cover letter is too long nobody
> actually reads it" problem? Or am I simply too tired to parse?
> 
> iproute2 is welcome to use the protocol descriptions like any other
> user space, but I'm intending to codegen kernel code based on the YAML:

Ok, that makes sense then. I was hoping that user configuration
of network devices could be done with YAML. But probably that is
best left networkd, netplan, and others.


> >> On the kernel side the YAML spec can be used to generate:
> >>  - the C uAPI header
> >>  - documentation of the protocol as a ReST file
> >>  - policy tables for input attribute validation
> >>  - operation tables  
> 
> So how can it not be in the kernel tree?

As code generator then sure.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-11 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-11  2:23 [RFC net-next 0/4] ynl: YAML netlink protocol descriptions Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 1/4] ynl: add intro docs for the concept Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 20:17   ` Edward Cree
2022-08-12 22:23     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:09   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16  0:32     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16  7:07       ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 2/4] ynl: add the schema for the schemas Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:03   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-15 20:09   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16  0:47     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16  7:21       ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16 15:53         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16 19:30           ` Johannes Berg
2022-09-26 16:10   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-27 21:56     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-28 12:32       ` Rob Herring
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 3/4] ynl: add a sample python library Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11  5:48   ` Benjamin Poirier
2022-08-11 15:50     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 20:09   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-12 22:53     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:00       ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-12  1:04   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-12 15:42     ` Edward Cree
2022-08-12 23:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-18 21:26         ` Keller, Jacob E
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 4/4] ynl: add a sample user for ethtool Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 16:18   ` sdf
2022-08-11 19:35     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 22:55       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-08-11 23:31         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-12 16:26           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-08-12 22:48             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-14 12:27   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-11  4:15 ` [RFC net-next 0/4] ynl: YAML netlink protocol descriptions Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-11  4:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 15:01     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2022-08-11 15:34       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 16:28         ` sdf
2022-08-11 19:42           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-12 17:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-08-12 22:26   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-19 19:56 ` Jakub Kicinski

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