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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Rodolfo Zitellini <rwz@xhero.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Doug Brown <doug@schmorgal.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] appletalk: remove localtalk and ppp support
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 16:43:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231009164303.0fe2f556@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <790BA488-B6F6-41ED-96EF-2089EF1C043B@xhero.org>

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 18:49:43 +0200
Rodolfo Zitellini <rwz@xhero.org> wrote:

> Hi!
> I’ve been working on a new LocalTalk interface driver for the last couple months, do you think it would be possible to at least postpone the removal of LT a bit?
> 
> It is a driver for an open source device called TashTalk (https://github.com/lampmerchant/tashtalk), which runs on a PIC micro that does all the LT interfacing, and communicates back via serial to the host system. My driver is relatively simple and works very well with netatalk 2.2 (which is still maintained and still has support for AppleTalk). The driver is basically complete and trsted and I was preparing to submit a patch.
> 
> Still having LocalTalk in my view has many advantages for us enthusiasts that still want to bridge old machines to the current world without modifications, for example for printing on modern printers, netbooting, sharing files and even tcp/ip. All this basically works out of the box via the driver, Linux and available userspace tools (netatalk, macipgw).
> 
> The old ISA cards supported by COPS were basically unobtanium even 20 years ago, but the solution of using a PIC and a serial port is very robust and much more furure-proof. We also already have a device that can interface a modern machine directly via USB to LocalTalk.
> 
> The development of the TashTalk has been also extensively discussed on thr 68KMLA forum (https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/modtashtalk-lt0-driver-for-linux.45031/)
> 
> I hope the decision to remove LocalTalk can be reconsidered at least for the time being so there is a chance to submit a new, modern device making use of this stack.
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Rodolfo Zitellini

Does it really need it to be a kernel protocol stack?
What about doing it in userspace or with BPF?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-09 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-09 14:18 [PATCH 01/10] appletalk: remove localtalk and ppp support Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 02/10] ieee802154: avoid deprecated .ndo_do_ioctl callback Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 03/10] ethernet: sp7021: fix ioctl callback pointer Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 04/10] staging: ks7010: remove unused ioctl handler Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 15:24   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 05/10] staging: rtl8192: remove unused legacy ioctl handlers Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 15:24   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 06/10] staging: rtl8712: " Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 15:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 07/10] staging: rtl8723bs: remove dead code Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 15:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 08/10] wireless: atmel: remove unused ioctl function Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10  6:59   ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 09/10] wireless: hostap: " Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10  7:00   ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 13:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 14:19 ` [PATCH 10/10] net: remove ndo_do_ioctl handler Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-09 16:49 ` [PATCH 01/10] appletalk: remove localtalk and ppp support Rodolfo Zitellini
2023-10-09 17:29   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10  7:10     ` Rodolfo Zitellini
2023-10-10  7:53       ` [PATCH v2] appletalk: make localtalk and ppp support conditional Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10  8:15       ` [PATCH 01/10] appletalk: remove localtalk and ppp support Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11  7:09         ` Rodolfo Zitellini
2023-10-09 23:43   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-10-10  0:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-10  9:21 ` kernel test robot
2023-10-11  9:27 ` kernel test robot

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