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From: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 08/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to expose current time stamping layer
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 17:00:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231016170027.42806cb7@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231016072204.1cb41eab@kernel.org>

On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:22:04 -0700
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:41:34 +0200 Köry Maincent wrote:
> > > Netdev vs phylib is an implementation detail of Linux.
> > > I'm also surprised that you changed this.    
> > 
> > This is the main reason I changed this. This is Linux implementation
> > purpose to know whether it should go through netdev or phylib, and then
> > each of these drivers could use other timestamps which are hardware
> > related.  
> 
> For an integrated design there's 90% chance the stamping is done 
> by the MAC. Even if it isn't there's no difference between PHY
> and MAC in terms of quality.

Ok, but there might be quality difference in case of several timestamp
configuration done in the MAC. Like the timestamping precision vs frequency
precision. In that case how ethtool would tell the driver to switch between
them?

My solution could work for this case by simply adding new values to the enum:

enum {
	NETDEV_TIMESTAMPING = (1 << 0),
	PHYLIB_TIMESTAMPING = (1 << 1),
	MAC_TS_PRECISION = (1 << 2)|(1 << 0),
	MAC_FREQ_PRECISION = (2 << 2)|(1 << 0),
}

Automatically Linux will go through the netdev implementation and could pass
the enum value to the netdev driver.

> But there is a big difference between MAC/PHY and DMA which would
> both fall under NETDEV?

Currently there is no DMA timestamping support right? And I suppose it fill fall
under the net device management?

In that case we will have MAC and DMA under netdev and PHY under phylib and
we won't have to do anything more than this timestamping management patch: 
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20231009155138.86458-14-kory.maincent@bootlin.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-16 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-09 15:51 [PATCH net-next v5 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 01/16] net: Convert PHYs hwtstamp callback to use kernel_hwtstamp_config Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:02   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10 15:37   ` Simon Horman
2023-10-11  8:27     ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-20 20:23   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 02/16] net: phy: Remove the call to phy_mii_ioctl in phy_hwstamp_get/set Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:04   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 03/16] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 19:56   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-09 21:06   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-11 21:41   ` Jay Vosburgh
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 04/16] net: macb: Convert to ndo_hwtstamp_get() and ndo_hwtstamp_set() Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:08   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 05/16] net: Make dev_set_hwtstamp_phylib accessible Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:09   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10  7:40     ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 06/16] net_tstamp: Add TIMESTAMPING SOFTWARE and HARDWARE mask Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:11   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 07/16] net: phy: micrel: fix ts_info value in case of no phc Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:14   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 08/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to expose current time stamping layer Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:20   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10  8:23     ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-13 16:00       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-13 16:11         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-16 10:41           ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-16 14:22             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-16 15:00               ` Köry Maincent [this message]
2023-10-16 15:43                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-16 16:23                   ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-16 17:03                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-16 23:03                       ` Jacob Keller
2023-10-17  9:21                         ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-16 23:50             ` Richard Cochran
2023-10-17  8:29               ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-13 16:14         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-10-13 16:30           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-13 17:09             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-10-13 17:46               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-13 17:56                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-10-13 20:15                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 09/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink command to get current timestamp Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:21   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10  8:40     ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 10/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to list available time stamping layers Köry Maincent
2023-10-13 22:52   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 11/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink " Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:22   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 12/16] net: Replace hwtstamp_source by timestamping layer Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:23   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 13/16] net: Change the API of PHY default timestamp to MAC Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 22:23   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10 15:52   ` Simon Horman
2023-10-13  1:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 14/16] net: ethtool: ts: Update GET_TS to reply the current selected timestamp Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 15/16] net ethtool: net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:28   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-10-10  8:31     ` Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 15:51 ` [PATCH net-next v5 16/16] netlink: specs: Introduce time stamping set command Köry Maincent
2023-10-09 21:29   ` Florian Fainelli

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