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From: Jonas Bonn <jonas.bonn@netrounds.com>
To: Josh Hunt <johunt@akamai.com>, pabeni@redhat.com
Cc: Michael Zhivich <mzhivich@akamai.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Packet gets stuck in NOLOCK pfifo_fast qdisc
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 09:53:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a9ae83f-abd8-1985-d84f-743e594c1189@netrounds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1849b74f-163c-8cfa-baa5-f653159fefd4@akamai.com>



On 30/06/2020 21:14, Josh Hunt wrote:
> On 6/23/20 6:42 AM, Michael Zhivich wrote:
>>> From: Jonas Bonn <jonas.bonn@netrounds.com>
>>> To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
>>>     "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
>>>     LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
>>>     "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
>>>     John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Packet gets stuck in NOLOCK pfifo_fast qdisc
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 02:39:48 +0200
>>> Message-ID: <465a540e-5296-32e7-f6a6-79942dfe2618@netrounds.com> (raw)
>>> In-Reply-To: <95c5a697932e19ebd6577b5dac4d7052fe8c4255.camel@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Paolo,
>>>
>>> On 09/10/2019 21:14, Paolo Abeni wrote:
>>>> Something alike the following code - completely untested - can possibly
>>>> address the issue, but it's a bit rough and I would prefer not adding
>>>> additonal complexity to the lockless qdiscs, can you please have a spin
>>>> a it?
>>>
>>> We've tested a couple of variants of this patch today, but unfortunately
>>> it doesn't fix the problem of packets getting stuck in the queue.
>>>
>>> A couple of comments:
>>>
>>> i) On 5.4, there is the BYPASS path that also needs the same treatment
>>> as it's essentially replicating the behavour of qdisc_run, just without
>>> the queue/dequeue steps
>>>
>>> ii)  We are working a lot with the 4.19 kernel so I backported to the
>>> patch to this version and tested there.  Here the solution would seem to
>>> be more robust as the BYPASS path does not exist.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, in both cases we continue to see the issue of the "last
>>> packet" getting stuck in the queue.
>>>
>>> /Jonas
>>
>> Hello Jonas, Paolo,
>>
>> We have observed the same problem with pfifo_fast qdisc when sending 
>> periodic small
>> packets on a TCP flow with multiple simultaneous connections on a 4.19.75
>> kernel.  We've been able to catch it in action using perf probes (see 
>> trace
>> below).  For qdisc = 0xffff900d7c247c00, skb = 0xffff900b72c334f0,
>> it takes 200270us to traverse the networking stack on a system that's 
>> not otherwise busy.
>> qdisc only resumes processing when another enqueued packet comes in,
>> so the packet could have been stuck indefinitely.
>>
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045480: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0xffff900bfc294af0 band=2 atomic_qlen=0
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045480:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue: (ffffffff9b69d8c0) qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> skb=0xffffffff9b69d8c0 band=2
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.045480:      
>> probe:tcp_transmit_skb2: (ffffffff9b6dc4e5) skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 
>> sk=0xffff900d62958040 source=0x4b4e dest=0x9abe
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045480: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0x0 band=3 atomic_qlen=0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.045481:      
>> probe:ip_finish_output2: (ffffffff9b6bc650) net=0xffffffff9c107c80 
>> sk=0xffff900d62958040 skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 __func__=0x0
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045481:        
>> probe:sch_direct_xmit: (ffffffff9b69e570) skb=0xffff900bfc294af0 
>> q=0xffff900d7c247c00 dev=0xffff900d6a140000 txq=0xffff900d6a181180 
>> root_lock=0x0 validate=1 ret=-1 again=155
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.045481:            
>> net:net_dev_queue: dev=eth0 skbaddr=0xffff900b72c334f0 len=115
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045482:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue: (ffffffff9b69d8c0) qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> skb=0xffffffff9b69d8c0 band=1
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.045483:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_enqueue: (ffffffff9b69d9f0) skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 to_free=18446622925407304000
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045483: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0x0 band=3 atomic_qlen=0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.045483: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_enqueue_end: (ffffffff9b69da9f) 
>> skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> to_free=0xffff91d0f67ab940 atomic_qlen=1
>>     proc-19902 19902 [032] 580644.045484:          
>> probe:__qdisc_run_2: (ffffffff9b69ea5a) q=0xffff900d7c247c00 packets=1
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245745:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_enqueue: (ffffffff9b69d9f0) skb=0xffff900d98fdf6f0 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 to_free=18446622925407304000
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245745: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_enqueue_end: (ffffffff9b69da9f) 
>> skb=0xffff900d98fdf6f0 qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> to_free=0xffff91d0f67ab940 atomic_qlen=2
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245746:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue: (ffffffff9b69d8c0) qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> skb=0xffffffff9b69d8c0 band=0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245746: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 band=2 atomic_qlen=1
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245747:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue: (ffffffff9b69d8c0) qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> skb=0xffffffff9b69d8c0 band=2
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245747: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0xffff900d98fdf6f0 band=2 atomic_qlen=0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245748:     
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue: (ffffffff9b69d8c0) qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 
>> skb=0xffffffff9b69d8c0 band=2
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245748: 
>> probe:pfifo_fast_dequeue_end: (ffffffff9b69d99d) 
>> qdisc=0xffff900d7c247c00 skb=0x0 band=3 atomic_qlen=0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245749:          
>> qdisc:qdisc_dequeue: dequeue ifindex=5 qdisc handle=0x0 parent=0xF 
>> txq_state=0x0 packets=2 skbaddr=0xffff900b72c334f0
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245749:        
>> probe:sch_direct_xmit: (ffffffff9b69e570) skb=0xffff900b72c334f0 
>> q=0xffff900d7c247c00 dev=0xffff900d6a140000 txq=0xffff900d6a181180 
>> root_lock=0x0 validate=1 ret=-1 again=155
>>     proc-19927 19927 [014] 580644.245750:       
>> net:net_dev_start_xmit: dev=eth0 queue_mapping=14 
>> skbaddr=0xffff900b72c334f0 vlan_tagged=0 vlan_proto=0x0000 
>> vlan_tci=0x0000 protocol=0x0800 ip_summed=3 len=115 data_len=0 
>> network_offset=14 transport_offset_valid=1 transport_offset=34 
>> tx_flags=0 gso_size=0 gso_segs=1 gso_type=0x1
>>
>> I was wondering if you had any more luck in finding a solution or 
>> workaround for this problem
>> (that is, aside from switching to a different qdisc)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~ Michael
>>
> 
> Jonas/Paolo
> 
> Do either of you know if there's been any development on a fix for this 
> issue? If not we can propose something.

Hi Josh,

No, I haven't been able to do any more work on this and the affected 
user switched qdisc (to avoid this problem) so I lost the reliable 
reproducer that I had...

/Jonas

> 
> Thanks
> Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-01  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-09  6:46 Packet gets stuck in NOLOCK pfifo_fast qdisc Jonas Bonn
2019-10-09 19:14 ` Paolo Abeni
2019-10-10  6:27   ` Jonas Bonn
2019-10-11  0:39   ` Jonas Bonn
2020-06-23 13:42     ` Michael Zhivich
2020-06-30 19:14       ` Josh Hunt
2020-07-01  7:53         ` Jonas Bonn [this message]
2020-07-01 16:05         ` Cong Wang
2020-07-01 19:58           ` Cong Wang
2020-07-01 22:02             ` Josh Hunt
2020-07-02  6:14             ` Jonas Bonn
2020-07-02  9:45               ` Paolo Abeni
2020-07-02 18:08                 ` Josh Hunt
2020-07-07 14:18                   ` Paolo Abeni
2020-07-08 20:16                     ` Cong Wang
2020-07-09  9:20                       ` Paolo Abeni
2020-07-08 20:33                   ` Zhivich, Michael
2020-08-20  7:43                   ` Jike Song
2020-08-20 18:13                     ` Josh Hunt
     [not found]                     ` <20200822032800.16296-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-08-25  2:18                       ` Fengkehuan Feng
     [not found]                         ` <20200825032312.11776-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-08-25  7:14                           ` Fengkehuan Feng
     [not found]                             ` <20200825162329.11292-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-08-26  2:38                               ` Kehuan Feng
     [not found]                                 ` <CACS=qqKptAQQGiMoCs1Zgs9S4ZppHhasy1AK4df2NxnCDR+vCw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <5f46032e.1c69fb81.9880c.7a6cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
2020-08-27  6:56                                     ` Kehuan Feng
     [not found]                                       ` <20200827125747.5816-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-08-28  1:45                                         ` Kehuan Feng
2020-09-03  5:01                                           ` Cong Wang
2020-09-03  8:39                                             ` Paolo Abeni
2020-09-03 17:43                                               ` Cong Wang
2020-09-04  5:07                                                 ` John Fastabend
2020-09-10 20:15                                                   ` Cong Wang
2020-09-10 21:07                                                     ` John Fastabend
2020-09-10 21:40                                                       ` Paolo Abeni
2021-04-02 19:25                                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2021-04-02 19:33                                                     ` Josh Hunt
     [not found]                                                     ` <20210403003537.2032-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-04-03 12:23                                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2021-04-06  0:55                                                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-04-06  7:06                                                           ` Michal Kubecek
2021-04-06 10:13                                                             ` Juergen Gross
2021-04-06 12:17                                                               ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-04-06  1:49                                                         ` Cong Wang
2021-04-06  2:46                                                           ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-04-06  7:31                                                             ` Michal Kubecek
2021-04-06 12:24                                                               ` Yunsheng Lin
     [not found]                                               ` <20200903101957.428-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-09-04  3:20                                                 ` Kehuan Feng
2020-09-10 20:19                                                   ` Cong Wang
2020-09-14  2:10                                                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2020-09-17 19:52                                                       ` Cong Wang
2020-09-18  2:06                                                         ` Kehuan Feng

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