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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
	 xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,  edumazet@google.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 2/2] virtio-net: add cond_resched() to the command waiting loop
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:30:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEvbm1LmwpiOzE0mCt6YKHsDy5zYv9fdLhcKBPaPOzLmpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230727054300-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 5:46 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 04:59:33PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > They really shouldn't - any NIC that takes forever to
> > > program will create issues in the networking stack.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's not rare as the device/cvq could be implemented
> > via firmware or software.
>
> Currently that mean one either has sane firmware with a scheduler that
> can meet deadlines, or loses ability to report errors back.
>
> > > But if they do they can always set this flag too.
> >
> > This may have false negatives and may confuse the management.
> >
> > Maybe we can extend the networking core to allow some device specific
> > configurations to be done with device specific lock without rtnl. For
> > example, split the set_channels to
> >
> > pre_set_channels
> > set_channels
> > post_set_channels
> >
> > The device specific part could be done in pre and post without a rtnl lock?
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
> Would the benefit be that errors can be reported to userspace then?
> Then maybe.  I think you will have to show how this works for at least
> one card besides virtio.

Even for virtio, this seems not easy, as e.g the
virtnet_send_command() and netif_set_real_num_tx_queues() need to
appear to be atomic to the networking core.

I wonder if we can re-consider the way of a timeout here and choose a
sane value as a start.

Thanks

>
>
> --
> MST
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-31  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-20  8:38 [PATCH net-next v4 0/2] virtio-net: don't busy poll for cvq command Jason Wang
2023-07-20  8:38 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/2] virtio-net: convert rx mode setting to use workqueue Jason Wang
2023-07-20 20:25   ` Shannon Nelson
2023-07-20  8:38 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/2] virtio-net: add cond_resched() to the command waiting loop Jason Wang
2023-07-20 15:31   ` Shannon Nelson
2023-07-20 20:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 20:26   ` Shannon Nelson
2023-07-20 21:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-21 14:37       ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-07-21 14:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-21 14:58           ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-07-21 15:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-21 20:18               ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-07-24  6:46                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-24  6:52                   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-24  7:18                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-25  3:03                       ` Jason Wang
2024-02-22 19:21                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-02-26  5:08                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-05 19:35                   ` Feng Liu
2023-10-08  5:27                     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-24  6:52                 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-24  7:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-25  3:07                     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-25  7:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-26  1:55                         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-26 11:37                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-27  6:03                             ` Jason Wang
2023-07-27  6:10                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-27  8:59                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-27  9:46                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-31  6:30                                     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2023-08-08  2:30                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10 19:41                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11  2:23                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-08-11  5:42                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11  9:18                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-08-11  9:21                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11  9:43                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-11  9:51                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11  9:54                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-11 10:12                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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