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From: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
To: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>
Cc: "Kalle Valo" <kvalo@kernel.org>,
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	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] PCI: introduce the concept of power sequencing of PCIe devices
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:29:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_Jsq+0xb-otvjkbLqB8gNKadVqnigwGB_k+VGrj740Y6wxjg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240117160748.37682-1-brgl@bgdev.pl>

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 10:08 AM Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl> wrote:
>
> From: Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
>
> The responses to the RFC were rather positive so here's a proper series.

Thanks for tackling this.

> During last year's Linux Plumbers we had several discussions centered
> around the need to power-on PCI devices before they can be detected on
> the bus.
>
> The consensus during the conference was that we need to introduce a
> class of "PCI slot drivers" that would handle the power-sequencing.
>
> After some additional brain-storming with Manivannan and the realization
> that DT maintainers won't like adding any "fake" nodes not representing
> actual devices, we decided to reuse existing PCI infrastructure.

Thank you. :)

> The general idea is to instantiate platform devices for child nodes of
> the PCIe port DT node. For those nodes for which a power-sequencing
> driver exists, we bind it and let it probe. The driver then triggers a
> rescan of the PCI bus with the aim of detecting the now powered-on
> device. The device will consume the same DT node as the platform,
> power-sequencing device. We use device links to make the latter become
> the parent of the former.
>
> The main advantage of this approach is not modifying the existing DT in
> any way and especially not adding any "fake" platform devices.

Suspend/resume has been brought up already, but I disagree we can
worry about that later unless there is and always will be no power
sequencing during suspend/resume for all devices ever. Given the
supplies aren't standard, it wouldn't surprise me if standard PCI
power management isn't either. The primary issue I see with this
design is we will end up with 2 drivers doing the same power
sequencing: the platform driver for initial power on and the device's
PCI driver for suspend/resume.

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-18 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-17 16:07 [PATCH 0/9] PCI: introduce the concept of power sequencing of PCIe devices Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] arm64: dts: qcom: qrb5165-rb5: describe the WLAN module of QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8550-qrd: add Wifi nodes Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 3/9] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8650-qrd: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 4/9] PCI: create platform devices for child OF nodes of the port node Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:22   ` Dan Williams
2024-01-18 13:11     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:45   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-18 10:58     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-18 11:15       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-30 21:54         ` Bjorn Andersson
2024-01-31 11:04           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-02  0:03             ` Bjorn Andersson
2024-02-02  4:50               ` Jeff Johnson
2024-02-02 10:02               ` Re: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-07 16:32                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-14 15:34                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 5/9] PCI: hold the rescan mutex when scanning for the first time Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 6/9] PCI/pwrseq: add pwrseq core code Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 7/9] dt-bindings: wireless: ath11k: describe QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 8/9] dt-bindings: wireless: ath11k: describe WCN7850 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 18:07   ` Kalle Valo
2024-01-17 20:01     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-17 16:07 ` [PATCH 9/9] PCI/pwrseq: add a pwrseq driver for QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-18  5:49   ` Kalle Valo
2024-01-18 17:50   ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-01-17 17:53 ` [PATCH 0/9] PCI: introduce the concept of power sequencing of PCIe devices Neil Armstrong
2024-01-17 18:16 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-01-18 18:53   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-01-19 11:52     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-19 12:31       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-01-19 13:35         ` brgl
2024-01-19 14:07           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-01-19 14:11             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-19 14:48               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-19 16:34       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-01-19 16:45         ` Rob Herring
2024-01-18 14:29 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2024-01-18 16:38   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-01-18 16:47   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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