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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Swiatkowski <michal.swiatkowski@linux.intel.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	jiri@nvidia.com, anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com,
	alexandr.lobakin@intel.com, wojciech.drewek@intel.com,
	lukasz.czapnik@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com, mustafa.ismail@intel.com,
	przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com, piotr.raczynski@intel.com,
	jacob.e.keller@intel.com, david.m.ertman@intel.com,
	leszek.kaliszczuk@intel.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 08:20:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3ckRWtAtZU1BdXm@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221117193618.2cd47268@kernel.org>

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:36:18PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:38:48 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > I don't think that management of PCI specific parameters in devlink is
> > right idea. PCI has his own subsystem with rules and assumptions, netdev
> > shouldn't mangle them.
> 
> Not netdev, devlink, which covers netdev, RDMA and others.

devlink is located in net/*, it is netdev.
Regarding RDMA, it is not fully accurate. We use devlink to convey
information to FW through pci device located in netdev. Some of such
parameters are RDMA related. However, we don't configure RDMA properties
through devlink, there is a special tool for that (rdmatool).

> 
> > In MSI-X case, this even more troublesome as users
> > sees these values through lspci without driver attached to it.
> 
> I'm no PCI expert either but FWIW to me the patch set seems reasonable.
> Whether management FW policies are configured via core PCI sysfs or
> subsystem-specific-ish APIs is a toss up. Adding Bjorn and please CC him
> on the next rev.

The thing is that it must be managed by FW. Earlier in this thread, I pointed
the pretty normal use case where you need to have valid PCI structure without
any driver involvement.

> 
> Link to the series:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221114125755.13659-1-michal.swiatkowski@linux.intel.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-14 12:57 [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 01/13] ice: move RDMA init to ice_idc.c Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 02/13] ice: alloc id for RDMA using xa_array Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 03/13] ice: cleanup in VSI config/deconfig code Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 04/13] ice: split ice_vsi_setup into smaller functions Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  5:08   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  6:49     ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 05/13] ice: stop hard coding the ICE_VSI_CTRL location Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 06/13] ice: split probe into smaller functions Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 07/13] ice: sync netdev filters after clearing VSI Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 08/13] ice: move VSI delete outside deconfig Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 09/13] ice: update VSI instead of init in some case Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 10/13] ice: implement devlink reinit action Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 11/13] ice: introduce eswitch capable flag Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 12/13] ice, irdma: prepare reservation of MSI-X to reload Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  5:08   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  6:49     ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [PATCH net-next 13/13] devlink, ice: add MSIX vectors as devlink resource Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 15:28   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-14 16:03     ` Piotr Raczynski
2022-11-15  6:56       ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 12:08       ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-14 13:23 ` [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-14 15:31   ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-14 16:58     ` Keller, Jacob E
2022-11-14 17:09       ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  7:00         ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 17:07     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  7:12       ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  8:11         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  9:04           ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  9:32             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 10:16               ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 12:12                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 14:02                   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 17:57                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16  1:59                       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-16  6:04                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16 12:04                           ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-16 17:59                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 11:10                               ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 11:45                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 13:39                                   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 17:38                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18  3:36                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-18  6:20                                         ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2022-11-18 14:23                                           ` Saleem, Shiraz
2022-11-18 17:31                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-20 22:24                                               ` Samudrala, Sridhar

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