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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH xfrm-next v7 6/8] xfrm: speed-up lookup of HW policies
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:54:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3zUosZQhPyoE53C@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221122130002.GM704954@gauss3.secunet.de>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 02:00:02PM +0100, Steffen Klassert wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:27:48AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 12:29:12PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 03:21:45PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The thing is that this SW acquire flow is a fraction case, as it applies
> > > > to locally generated traffic.
> > > 
> > > A router can trigger an acquire on forwarded packets too.  Without
> > > larvals this could quickly overwhelm the router.
> > 
> > This series doesn't support tunnel mode yet.
> 
> It does not matter if tunnel or transport mode, acquires must
> work as expected. This is a fundamental concept of IPsec, there
> is no way to tell userspace that we don't support this.
> 
> > Maybe I was not clear, but I wanted to say what in eswitch case and
> > tunnel mode, the packets will be handled purely by HW without raising
> > into SW core.
> 
> Can you please explain why we need host interaction for
> transport, but not for tunnel mode?

The main difference is that in transport mode, you must bring packet
to the kernel in which you configured SA/policy. It means that we must
ensure that such packets won't be checked again in SW because all packets
(encrypted and not) pass XFRM logic.

 - wire -> RX NIC -> kernel -> XFRM stack (we need HW DB here to skip this stage) -> ....
 ... -> kernel -> XFRM stack (skip for HW SA/policies) -> TX NIC -> wire.

In tunnel mode, we arrive to XFRM when nothing IPsec related is configured.

 - wire -> RX PF NIC -> eswitch NIC logic -> TX uplink NIC -> RX
   representors -> XFRM stack in VM (nothing configured here) -> kernel

The most troublesome part is in TX path, where you must skip "double check"
before NIC. This check doesn't exist in tunnel mode.

In RX, there is also difference between modes due to how we are supposed
to treat headers.

Raed will add more details.

> 
> And as said already, I want to see the full picture (transport
> + tunnel mode) before we merge it.

It looks like we already have this picture.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-09 12:54 [PATCH xfrm-next v7 0/8] Extend XFRM core to allow packet offload configuration Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 1/8] xfrm: add new packet offload flag Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 2/8] xfrm: allow state packet offload mode Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 3/8] xfrm: add an interface to offload policy Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 4/8] xfrm: add TX datapath support for IPsec packet offload mode Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 11:59   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-17 12:32     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18 10:23       ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 11:10         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 5/8] xfrm: add RX datapath protection " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 6/8] xfrm: speed-up lookup of HW policies Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 12:12   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-17 12:51     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18 10:49       ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-20 19:17         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21  9:44           ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 10:27             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21 11:09               ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 11:15                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21 11:25                   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 11:34                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21 12:02                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21 12:43                         ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 13:01                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-22 13:10                             ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-22 13:57                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-23  8:37                                 ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-23  9:36                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-23 12:53                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-24 11:07                                       ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-25  6:23                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-21 12:10                       ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-21 13:21                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-22  4:29                           ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-22  6:27                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-22 13:00                               ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-22 13:54                                 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2022-11-23  8:23                                   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-23 10:25                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 7/8] xfrm: add support to HW update soft and hard limits Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 12:13   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-17 12:32     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-09 12:54 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 8/8] xfrm: document IPsec packet offload mode Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 12:15   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-17 12:33     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 18:09 ` [PATCH xfrm-next v7 0/8] Extend XFRM core to allow packet offload configuration Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 18:30   ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-15 19:00     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16 23:07       ` Saeed Mahameed
2022-11-17 12:20         ` Steffen Klassert
2022-11-17 12:24           ` Leon Romanovsky

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