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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Brett Creeley <brett.creeley@amd.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"yishaih@nvidia.com" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	"shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com"
	<shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	"shannon.nelson@amd.com" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 vfio 4/7] vfio/pds: Add VFIO live migration support
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:27:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJL6wHiXHc1eBj/R@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52763F3D4F18DAB867D146458C5DA@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 06:49:12AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:

> What is the criteria for 'reasonable'? How does CSPs judge that such
> device can guarantee a *reliable* reasonable window so live migration
> can be enabled in the production environment?

The CSP needs to work with the device vendor to understand how it fits
into their system, I don't see how we can externalize this kind of
detail in a general way.
 
> I'm afraid that we are hiding a non-deterministic factor in current protocol.

Yes

> But still I don't think it's a good situation where the user has ZERO
> knowledge about the non-negligible time in the stopping path...

In any sane device design this will be a small period of time. These
timeouts should be to protect against a device that has gone wild.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-21 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02 22:03 [PATCH v10 vfio 0/7] pds_vfio driver Brett Creeley
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 1/7] vfio: Commonize combine_ranges for use in other VFIO drivers Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  6:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-16 18:37     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 2/7] vfio/pds: Initial support for pds_vfio VFIO driver Brett Creeley
2023-06-14 21:31   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-14 21:41     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  6:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-16 18:42     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 3/7] vfio/pds: register with the pds_core PF Brett Creeley
2023-06-15 21:05   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-06-15 21:30     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  7:04   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-16 19:01     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-20  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 4/7] vfio/pds: Add VFIO live migration support Brett Creeley
2023-06-15 21:07   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-06-15 21:36     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  8:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-17  4:45     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-20  2:19       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-19 12:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-20  2:02       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-20 12:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-21  6:49           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-21 13:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-06-26  7:31               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-26 18:13                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-27  6:03                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 5/7] vfio/pds: Add support for dirty page tracking Brett Creeley
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 6/7] vfio/pds: Add support for firmware recovery Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  8:24   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-17  0:47     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 7/7] vfio/pds: Add Kconfig and documentation Brett Creeley
2023-06-16  8:25   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-16 20:05     ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-14 20:20 ` [PATCH v10 vfio 0/7] pds_vfio driver Alex Williamson
2023-06-16  6:47 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-16 20:06   ` Brett Creeley
2023-06-17  4:49 ` Brett Creeley

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