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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>, Marc Zygnier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Megha Dey <megha.dey@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	linux-ntb@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:07:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YaNi2RkiYdnoEDau@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf19fl9i.ffs@tglx>

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 08:31:37PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27 2021 at 13:32, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 02:23:15AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> The sysfs handling for MSI is a convoluted maze and it is in the way of
> >> supporting dynamic expansion of the MSI-X vectors because it only supports
> >> a one off bulk population/free of the sysfs entries.
> >> 
> >> Change it to do:
> >> 
> >>    1) Creating an empty sysfs attribute group when msi_device_data is
> >>       allocated
> >> 
> >>    2) Populate the entries when the MSI descriptor is initialized
> >
> > How much later does this happen?  Can it happen while the device has a
> > driver bound to it?
> 
> That's not later than before. It's when the driver initializes the
> MSI[X] interrupts, which usually happens in the probe() function.
> 
> The difference is that the group, (i.e.) directory is created slightly
> earlier.

Ok, but that still happens when probe() is called for the driver, right?

> >> +
> >> +static inline int msi_sysfs_create_group(struct device *dev)
> >> +{
> >> +	return devm_device_add_group(dev, &msi_irqs_group);
> >
> > Much nicer, but you changed the lifetime rules of when these attributes
> > will be removed, is that ok?
> 
> The msi entries are removed at the same place as they are removed in the
> current mainline code, i.e. when the device driver shuts the device
> down and disables MSI[X], which happens usually during remove()
> 
> What's different now is that the empty group stays around a bit
> longer. I don't see how that matters.

How much longer does it stick around?

What happens if this sequence happens:
	- probe()
	- disconnect()
	- probe()
with the same device (i.e. the device is not removed from the system)?

Which can happen as userspace can trigger disconnect() or even worse, if
the driver is unloaded and then loaded again?  Will the second call to
create this directory fail as it is not cleaned up yet?

I can never remember if devm_*() stuff sticks around for the device
lifecycle, or for the driver/device lifecycle, which is one big reason
why I don't like that api...

> > I still worry that these attributes show up "after" the device is
> > registered with the driver core, but hey, it's no worse than it
> > currently is, so that's not caused by this patch series...
> 
> Happens that register before or after driver->probe()?

During probe is a bit too late, but we can handle that as we are used to
it.  If it happens after probe() succeeds, based on something else being
asked for in the driver (like the device being opened), then userspace
has no chance of ever noticing these attributes being added.

But again, this isn't new to your code series, so I wouldn't worry about
it.  Obviously userspace tools do not care or really notice these
attributes at all otherwise the authors of them would have complained
a long time ago :)

So again, no real objection from me here, just meta-comments, except for
the above thing with the devm_* call to ensure that the
probe/disconnect/probe sequence will still work just as well as it does
today.  Should be easy enough to test out by just unloading a module and
then loading it again with this patch series applied.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-28 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27  1:23 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28  1:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31   ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50         ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01  0:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2021-11-28 19:33         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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