From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Linux NVDIMM <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFT PATCH] x86/pat: Fix set_mce_nospec() for pmem
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:44:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jV_8JCNSXg9W3ZNDhZEd=z2QyLWPgLUiVN92rp7zWReA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YVY7wY/mhMiRLATk@zn.tnic>
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 3:36 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 02:41:52PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > I fail to see the point of that extra plumbing when MSi_MISC
> > indicating "whole_page", or not is sufficient. What am I missing?
>
> I think you're looking at it from the wrong side... (or it is too late
> here, but we'll see). Forget how a memory type can be mapped but think
> about how the recovery action looks like.
>
> - DRAM: when a DRAM page is poisoned, it is only poisoned as a whole
> page by memory_failure(). whole_page is always true here, no matter what
> the hardware says because we don't and cannot do any sub-page recovery
> actions. So it doesn't matter how we map it, UC, NP... I suggested NP
> because the page is practically not present if you want to access it
> because mm won't allow it...
>
> - PMEM: reportedly, we can do sub-page recovery here so PMEM should be
> mapped in the way it is better for the recovery action to work.
>
> In both cases, the recovery action should control how the memory type is
> mapped.
>
> Now, you say we cannot know the memory type when the error gets
> reported.
>
> And I say: for simplicity's sake, we simply go and work with whole
> pages. Always. That is the case anyway for DRAM.
>
> For PMEM, AFAIU, it doesn't matter whether it is a whole page or not -
> the PMEM driver knows how to do those sub-pages accesses.
>
> IOW, set_mce_nospec() should simply do:
>
> rc = set_memory_np(decoy_addr, 1);
>
> and that's it.
The driver uses the direct-map to do the access. It uses the
direct-map because it has also arranged for pfn_to_page() to work for
PMEM pages. So if PMEM is in the direct-map is marked NP then the
sub-page accesses will fault.
Now, the driver could set up and tear down page tables for the pfn
whenever it is asked to do I/O over a potentially poisoned pfn. Is
that what you are suggesting? It seems like a significant amount of
overhead, but it would at least kick this question out of the purview
of the MCE code.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-30 22:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-07 1:01 [RFT PATCH] x86/pat: Fix set_mce_nospec() for pmem Dan Williams
2021-08-26 19:08 ` Dan Williams
2021-08-27 7:12 ` Jane Chu
2021-09-13 10:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-14 18:08 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-15 10:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-16 20:33 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-17 11:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-21 2:04 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 17:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 17:28 ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-30 19:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 19:41 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 19:44 ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-30 20:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 20:15 ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-30 20:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 20:39 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 20:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 21:05 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 21:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 21:41 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 22:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-30 22:44 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2021-10-01 10:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-01 0:43 ` Jane Chu
2021-10-01 2:02 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-01 10:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-01 16:52 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-01 18:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-01 18:29 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-02 10:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-11-11 0:06 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-12 0:30 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-12 0:51 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-12 17:57 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-12 19:24 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-12 22:35 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-12 22:50 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-12 23:08 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-13 5:50 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-13 20:47 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-18 19:03 ` Jane Chu
2021-11-25 0:16 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-30 23:00 ` Jane Chu
2021-09-30 18:15 ` Jane Chu
2021-09-30 19:11 ` Dan Williams
2021-09-30 21:23 ` Jane Chu
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