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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Debian support lifetime (was Re: [PATCH] docker: move tests from python2 to python3)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:58:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190926115829.GA18782@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190925200440.GO8144@habkost.net>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 05:04:40PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:35:13AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 04:05:33PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> [...]
> > > Even for other long-lifetime distros, I really think "2 years
> > > after the new major version is released" is too long, and I'd
> > > like to shorten this to 1 year.
> > 
> > I guess this is ok, since this. is still quite a long life time of
> > support for distros. eg RHEL has a 3-4 year gap between major
> > releases, that gives 4-5 years for each release being supported by
> > QEMU. Other LTS distros are similar
> 
> Do you mean the 2 years period is OK (and shouldn't be changed),
> or that shortening it to 1 year is OK?

When first wording the lifetimes, I tried to strike a balance between
limiting what we have to support, while also not negatively impacting
a large number of QEMU developers or users. Since we had never had
such support lifetimes declared for QEMU before, I was fairly generous,
hence picking the 2 year overlap for LTS distros (Ubuntu, RHEL and
SLES).

It is easier to come to a decision when considering a real world tech
problem related to the lifetime. 

The start of this thread was debating Debian / Python support. If we
fix the doc to put debian under the short life distro category, we'll
have solved the Python problem IIUC.

Then I'd suggest we just leave LTS distros as a 2 year overlap until
we hit some technical problem that is caused by needing the 2 year
overlap. That way we can consider the cost/benefit in more real terms.


Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-26 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-20 20:00 [PATCH] docker: move tests from python2 to python3 John Snow
2019-09-20 21:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-09-23 14:50 ` Cleber Rosa
2019-09-23 14:57   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-09-23 15:19     ` Cleber Rosa
2019-09-23 17:19   ` John Snow
2019-09-23 19:05     ` Debian support lifetime (was Re: [PATCH] docker: move tests from python2 to python3) Eduardo Habkost
2019-09-23 21:32       ` John Snow
2019-09-24  7:35       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-09-24  9:06         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-09-25 20:04         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-09-26 11:58           ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2019-09-26 12:18             ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-26 12:44               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-09-26 17:43             ` John Snow

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