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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
To: BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>
Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/5] Mac Old World ROM experiment (ppc/mac_* clean ups and loading binary ROM)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 19:44:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6598b187-7936-563c-c06b-cb4315fa4cc1@amsat.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <edb86311-6093-9776-a81-17ee8205a6c@eik.bme.hu>

On 10/17/20 6:39 PM, BALATON Zoltan via wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2020, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>> On 10/16/20 11:58 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
>>> On 16/10/2020 00:47, BALATON Zoltan via wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is the cut down version of the earlier series omitting unfinished
>>>> patches that I plan to rework later and rebased to Mark's qemu-macppc
>>>> branch. Compared to v7 the only change is the cast to (target_ulong)
>>>> from (uint32_t) as requested by Mark in patch 1.
>>>
>>> FWIW the reason for suggesting the cast to target_ulong is so that 
>>> the same code works for both qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-ppc64. 
>>> For qemu-system-ppc that should correctly drop the sign extension 
>>> from 32-bit, whilst still allowing someone to load a 64-bit ELF into 
>>> qemu-system-ppc64 if requested.
>>
>> IMO this is part of a bigger design problem. Not all
>> machines main bus is 64-bit. I did some experiments
>> but changing that involves a lot of work.
> 
> Did not want to reply to this to not bring it to your attention before 
> patch gets in finally but it's too late...
> 
> Not sure what you refer to

I refer to having machines with a N-bit main bus using a N-bit main bus
(currently all main busses are 64-bit wide).

Some 32-bit machines have access to 64-bit busses, some don't.

I have been wondering about it because of the AVR CPU which
uses a pair of busses, each less than 32-bit.

If one day I can finish my work there, the Old World mac might
benefit from it.

> but in this particular case the problem only 
> seems to be load_elf loading 32 bit ELF files returning sign extended 64 
> bit address which looks bogus but since this function is widely used I 
> did not feel confident enough to propose a patch to load_elf.
> 
> By the way, also the parameters of load_elf could take a clean up to 
> remove all the mostly NULL values as I've pointed out before:
> 
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-01/msg03427.html
> 
> but all this could wait until later, these don't seem to be urgent 
> problems to prevent moving mac machines forward now and could all be 
> addressen in separate elf loading series. So just note the problem and 
> move on for now please.
> 
> Reagards.
> BALATON Zoltan


      reply	other threads:[~2020-10-17 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-15 23:47 [PATCH v8 0/5] Mac Old World ROM experiment (ppc/mac_* clean ups and loading binary ROM) BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-15 23:47 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] mac_oldworld: Drop some variables BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-15 23:47 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] mac_oldworld: Allow loading binary ROM image BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-15 23:47 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] mac_oldworld: Change PCI address of macio to match real hardware BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-15 23:47 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] mac_newworld: Allow loading binary ROM image BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-15 23:47 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] mac_oldworld: Drop a variable, use get_system_memory() directly BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-16  9:58 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] Mac Old World ROM experiment (ppc/mac_* clean ups and loading binary ROM) Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-10-16 12:19   ` BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-17 12:54     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-10-17 15:56       ` BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-18 16:01         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-10-16 13:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-10-17 16:39     ` BALATON Zoltan via
2020-10-17 17:44       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]

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