From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P.Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>, "John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 07:45:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfp1ww41.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59039903dba3c277ef9dbc2397a896c906f120d1.camel@redhat.com> (Maxim Levitsky's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:05:15 +0200")
Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com> writes:
> On Sat, 2020-02-15 at 15:51 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Review of this patch led to a lengthy QAPI schema design discussion.
>> Let me try to condense it into a concrete proposal.
>>
>> This is about the QAPI schema, and therefore about QMP. The
>> human-friendly interface is out of scope. Not because it's not
>> important (it clearly is!), only because we need to *focus* to have a
>> chance at success.
> 100% agree.
>>
>> I'm going to include a few design options. I'll mark them "Option:".
>>
>> The proposed "amend" interface takes a specification of desired state,
>> and figures out how to get from here to there by itself. LUKS keyslots
>> are one part of desired state.
>>
>> We commonly have eight LUKS keyslots. Each keyslot is either active or
>> inactive. An active keyslot holds a secret.
>>
>> Goal: a QAPI type for specifying desired state of LUKS keyslots.
>>
>> Proposal:
>>
>> { 'enum': 'LUKSKeyslotState',
>> 'data': [ 'active', 'inactive' ] }
>>
>> { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
>> 'data': { 'secret': 'str',
>> '*iter-time': 'int } }
>>
>> { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive',
>> 'data': { '*old-secret': 'str' } }
>>
>> { 'union': 'LUKSKeyslotAmend',
>> 'base': { '*keyslot': 'int',
>> 'state': 'LUKSKeyslotState' }
>> 'discriminator': 'state',
>> 'data': { 'active': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
>> 'inactive': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive' } }
>>
>> LUKSKeyslotAmend specifies desired state for a set of keyslots.
>>
>> Four cases:
>>
>> * @state is "active"
>>
>> Desired state is active holding the secret given by @secret. Optional
>> @iter-time tweaks key stretching.
>>
>> The keyslot is chosen either by the user or by the system, as follows:
>>
>> - @keyslot absent
>>
>> One inactive keyslot chosen by the system. If none exists, error.
>>
>> - @keyslot present
>>
>> The keyslot given by @keyslot.
>>
>> If it's already active holding @secret, no-op. Rationale: the
>> current state is the desired state.
>>
>> If it's already active holding another secret, error. Rationale:
>> update in place is unsafe.
>>
>> Option: delete the "already active holding @secret" case. Feels
>> inelegant to me. Okay if it makes things substantially simpler.
> I didn't really understand this, since in state=active we shouldn't
> delete anything. Looks OK otherwise.
Let me try to clarify.
Option: make the "already active holding @secret" case an error like the
"already active holding another secret" case. In longhand:
- @keyslot present
The keyslot given by @keyslot.
If it's already active, error.
It feels inelegant to me, because it deviates from "specify desired
state" paradigm: the specified desired state is fine, the way to get
there from current state is obvious (do nothing), yet it's still an
error.
>> * @state is "inactive"
>>
>> Desired state is inactive.
>>
>> Error if the current state has active keyslots, but the desired state
>> has none.
>>
>> The user choses the keyslot by number and/or by the secret it holds,
>> as follows:
>>
>> - @keyslot absent, @old-secret present
>>
>> All active keyslots holding @old-secret. If none exists, error.
>>
>> - @keyslot present, @old-secret absent
>>
>> The keyslot given by @keyslot.
>>
>> If it's already inactive, no-op. Rationale: the current state is
>> the desired state.
>>
>> - both @keyslot and @old-secret present
>>
>> The keyslot given by keyslot.
>>
>> If it's inactive or holds a secret other than @old-secret, error.
> Yea, that would be very nice to have.
>>
>> Option: error regardless of @old-secret, if that makes things
>> simpler.
>>
>> - neither @keyslot not @old-secret present
>>
>> All keyslots. Note that this will error out due to "desired state
>> has no active keyslots" unless the current state has none, either.
>>
>> Option: error out unconditionally.
> Yep, that the best IMHO.
It's a matter of taste.
If we interpret "both absent" as "all keyslots", then all cases flow out
of the following simple spec:
0. Start with the set of all keyslots
1. If @old-secret is present, interset it with the set of slots
holding that secret.
2. If @keyslots is present, intersect it with the set of slots with
that slot number.
The order of steps 1 and 2 doesn't matter.
To error out unconditionally, we have to make "both absent" a special
case.
A good way to resolve such matters of taste is to try writing doc
comments for all proposals. If you find you hate one of them much less,
you have a winner :)
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-14 19:33 [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 01/13] qcrypto: add generic infrastructure for crypto options amendment Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 16:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:49 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21 7:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:13 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-28 17:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 12:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 12:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 14:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 14:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 15:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 8:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 9:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 10:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 11:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 14:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:20 ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-05 14:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-06 15:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 15:23 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 15:45 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 12:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-15 14:51 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Markus Armbruster
2020-02-16 8:05 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 6:45 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-02-17 8:19 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 10:37 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Kevin Wolf
2020-02-17 11:07 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-24 14:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:50 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 12:28 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17 12:44 ` Eric Blake
2020-02-24 14:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:45 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-25 12:15 ` Max Reitz
2020-02-25 16:48 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-25 17:00 ` Max Reitz
2020-02-26 7:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-26 9:18 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-25 17:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-03 9:18 ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Maxim Levitsky
2020-03-05 12:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 03/13] block: amend: add 'force' option Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: amend: separate amend and create options for qemu-img Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 15:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 05/13] block/crypto: rename two functions Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 06/13] block/crypto: implement the encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:08 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 07/13] qcow2: extend qemu-img amend interface with crypto options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:09 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 08/13] iotests: filter few more luks specific create options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:12 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 09/13] qemu-iotests: qemu-img tests for luks key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: add generic infrastructure for x-blockdev-amend qmp command Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21 7:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 11/13] block/crypto: implement blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 12/13] block/qcow2: " Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 13/13] iotests: add tests for blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:16 ` [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface no-reply
2020-01-16 14:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:17 ` no-reply
2020-01-16 14:19 ` Maxim Levitsky
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