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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P.Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>, "John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 07:45:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfp1ww41.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59039903dba3c277ef9dbc2397a896c906f120d1.camel@redhat.com> (Maxim Levitsky's message of "Sun, 16 Feb 2020 10:05:15 +0200")

Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com> writes:

> On Sat, 2020-02-15 at 15:51 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Review of this patch led to a lengthy QAPI schema design discussion.
>> Let me try to condense it into a concrete proposal.
>> 
>> This is about the QAPI schema, and therefore about QMP.  The
>> human-friendly interface is out of scope.  Not because it's not
>> important (it clearly is!), only because we need to *focus* to have a
>> chance at success.
> 100% agree.
>> 
>> I'm going to include a few design options.  I'll mark them "Option:".
>> 
>> The proposed "amend" interface takes a specification of desired state,
>> and figures out how to get from here to there by itself.  LUKS keyslots
>> are one part of desired state.
>> 
>> We commonly have eight LUKS keyslots.  Each keyslot is either active or
>> inactive.  An active keyslot holds a secret.
>> 
>> Goal: a QAPI type for specifying desired state of LUKS keyslots.
>> 
>> Proposal:
>> 
>>     { 'enum': 'LUKSKeyslotState',
>>       'data': [ 'active', 'inactive' ] }
>> 
>>     { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
>>       'data': { 'secret': 'str',
>>                 '*iter-time': 'int } }
>> 
>>     { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive',
>>       'data': { '*old-secret': 'str' } }
>> 
>>     { 'union': 'LUKSKeyslotAmend',
>>       'base': { '*keyslot': 'int',
>>                 'state': 'LUKSKeyslotState' }
>>       'discriminator': 'state',
>>       'data': { 'active': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
>>                 'inactive': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive' } }
>> 
>> LUKSKeyslotAmend specifies desired state for a set of keyslots.
>> 
>> Four cases:
>> 
>> * @state is "active"
>> 
>>   Desired state is active holding the secret given by @secret.  Optional
>>   @iter-time tweaks key stretching.
>> 
>>   The keyslot is chosen either by the user or by the system, as follows:
>> 
>>   - @keyslot absent
>> 
>>     One inactive keyslot chosen by the system.  If none exists, error.
>> 
>>   - @keyslot present
>> 
>>     The keyslot given by @keyslot.
>> 
>>     If it's already active holding @secret, no-op.  Rationale: the
>>     current state is the desired state.
>> 
>>     If it's already active holding another secret, error.  Rationale:
>>     update in place is unsafe.
>> 
>>     Option: delete the "already active holding @secret" case.  Feels
>>     inelegant to me.  Okay if it makes things substantially simpler.
> I didn't really understand this, since in state=active we shouldn't
> delete anything. Looks OK otherwise.

Let me try to clarify.

Option: make the "already active holding @secret" case an error like the
"already active holding another secret" case.  In longhand:

     - @keyslot present

       The keyslot given by @keyslot.

       If it's already active, error.

It feels inelegant to me, because it deviates from "specify desired
state" paradigm: the specified desired state is fine, the way to get
there from current state is obvious (do nothing), yet it's still an
error.

>> * @state is "inactive"
>> 
>>   Desired state is inactive.
>> 
>>   Error if the current state has active keyslots, but the desired state
>>   has none.
>> 
>>   The user choses the keyslot by number and/or by the secret it holds,
>>   as follows:
>> 
>>   - @keyslot absent, @old-secret present
>> 
>>     All active keyslots holding @old-secret.  If none exists, error.
>> 
>>   - @keyslot present, @old-secret absent
>> 
>>     The keyslot given by @keyslot.
>> 
>>     If it's already inactive, no-op.  Rationale: the current state is
>>     the desired state.
>> 
>>   - both @keyslot and @old-secret present
>> 
>>     The keyslot given by keyslot.
>> 
>>     If it's inactive or holds a secret other than @old-secret, error.
> Yea, that would be very nice to have.
>> 
>>     Option: error regardless of @old-secret, if that makes things
>>     simpler.
>> 
>>   - neither @keyslot not @old-secret present
>> 
>>     All keyslots.  Note that this will error out due to "desired state
>>     has no active keyslots" unless the current state has none, either.
>> 
>>     Option: error out unconditionally.
> Yep, that the best IMHO.

It's a matter of taste.

If we interpret "both absent" as "all keyslots", then all cases flow out
of the following simple spec:

    0. Start with the set of all keyslots

    1. If @old-secret is present, interset it with the set of slots
       holding that secret.

    2. If @keyslots is present, intersect it with the set of slots with
       that slot number.

The order of steps 1 and 2 doesn't matter.

To error out unconditionally, we have to make "both absent" a special
case.

A good way to resolve such matters of taste is to try writing doc
comments for all proposals.  If you find you hate one of them much less,
you have a winner :)

[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 19:33 [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 01/13] qcrypto: add generic infrastructure for crypto options amendment Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 16:59   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:49     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:13     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-28 17:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:54           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 12:38           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 12:53             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 14:30                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:53                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 14:47               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 15:01                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:37                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  8:24                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  9:30                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 10:03                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 11:02                           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 14:31                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:44                               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:49                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:20                                   ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 10:23                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-05 14:31                           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:20                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:36                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:25                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-06 15:19                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 15:23                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 15:45                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:21   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 12:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-15 14:51   ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Markus Armbruster
2020-02-16  8:05     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17  6:45       ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-02-17  8:19         ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 10:37     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Kevin Wolf
2020-02-17 11:07       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-24 14:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:50           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 12:28       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17 12:44         ` Eric Blake
2020-02-24 14:43         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:45     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-25 12:15     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-25 16:48       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-25 17:00         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-26  7:28           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-26  9:18             ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-25 17:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-03  9:18     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Maxim Levitsky
2020-03-05 12:15       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 03/13] block: amend: add 'force' option Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: amend: separate amend and create options for qemu-img Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 15:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 05/13] block/crypto: rename two functions Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 06/13] block/crypto: implement the encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:08     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 07/13] qcow2: extend qemu-img amend interface with crypto options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:09     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 08/13] iotests: filter few more luks specific create options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:36   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:12     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 09/13] qemu-iotests: qemu-img tests for luks key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: add generic infrastructure for x-blockdev-amend qmp command Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 11/13] block/crypto: implement blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:40   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:24     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 12/13] block/qcow2: " Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:41   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 13/13] iotests: add tests for blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:16 ` [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface no-reply
2020-01-16 14:01   ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:17 ` no-reply
2020-01-16 14:19   ` Maxim Levitsky

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