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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de>,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-dev <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Zhang, Chen" <chen.zhang@intel.com>,
	Zhang Chen <zhangckid@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 2/7] qapi/net.json: Add L4_Connection definition
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 07:47:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtutf3pv.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFpML7sdeUiciL3B@work-vm> (David Alan Gilbert's message of "Tue,  23 Mar 2021 20:14:39 +0000")

"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> writes:

> * Markus Armbruster (armbru@redhat.com) wrote:
>> "Zhang, Chen" <chen.zhang@intel.com> writes:
>> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> [...]
>> >> Naming the argument type L4_Connection is misleading.
>> >> 
>> >> Even naming the match arguments L4_Connection would be misleading.
>> >> "Connection" has a specific meaning in networking.  There are TCP
>> >> connections.  There is no such thing as an UDP connection.
>> >> 
>> >> A TCP connection is uniquely identified by a pair of endpoints, i.e. by source
>> >> address, source port, destination address, destination port.
>> >> Same for other connection-oriented protocols.  The protocol is not part of
>> >> the connection.  Thus, L4_Connection would be misleading even for the
>> >> connection-oriented case.
>> >> 
>> >> You need a named type for colo-passthrough-add's argument because you
>> >> share it with colo-passthrough-del.  I'm not sure that's what we want (I'm
>> >> going to write more on that in a moment).  If it is what we want, then please
>> >> pick a another, descriptive name.
>> >
>> > What do you think the "L4BypassRule" or "NetworkRule" ?
>> 
>> NetworkRule is too generic.
>> 
>> What about ColoPassthroughRule?
>
> Which is a bit specific; there's not actually anything Colo specific in
> there; can I suggest 'L4FlowSpec';

"A bit too specific" is mostly harmless, since we can rename types at
any time (they are not visible in external interfaces).

This is *not* an objection to less specific names.  All I want is names
that don't give me wrong ideas on the thing's purpose.  L4FlowSpec and
IPFlowSpec (below) feel fine in that regard.

>                                     I think there should also beb
> a separate type that represents an IP address+port, so that what you end
> up with is:
>
>   IPFlowSpec
>      ID
>      Protocol
>      Source
>      Dest

I understand the motivation.  Three drawbacks, though.

One, it gets us another level of nesting on the wire, i.e. something
like

    {"source": {"address": SRC-ADDR, "port": SRC-PORT},
     "destination": {"address": DST-ADDR, "port": DST-PORT}}

instead of

    {"source-address": SRC-ADDR, "source-port": SRC-PORT,
     "destination-address": DST-ADDR, "destination-port": DST-PORT}

QMP clients shouldn't care.

Two, we have many (address, port) pairs in the schema that don't use
nesting.  Adding nesting sometimes makes QMP less consistent.

Three, human-friendly interface wrappers tend to dislike nesting.  This
particular case seems okay; we end up with dotted keys like
source.address instead of source-address.  In a case where we need just
one (address, port), we'd get some-silly-name.address instead of just
address, though.

I've occasionally felt a mild need for letting me say "this struct
member should be unboxed on the wire", i.e. have its curlies peeled off.
Never enough to justify the additional generator complexity, though.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19  3:55 [PATCH V4 0/7] Bypass specific network traffic in COLO Zhang Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 1/7] qapi/net.json: Add IP_PROTOCOL definition Zhang Chen
2021-03-19 15:46   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-22  9:59     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-22 12:12       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-22 12:43       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-23 20:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-04-15 10:51     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-04-15 15:14       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-16  6:03         ` Zhang, Chen
2021-04-16  9:22           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-20 11:05             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-04-20 15:20               ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 2/7] qapi/net.json: Add L4_Connection definition Zhang Chen
2021-03-19 15:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-22 10:00     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-22 12:31       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-23  9:06         ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-23  9:54           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-23 20:14             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-03-24  6:47               ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-03-24  6:51                 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-26  2:27                 ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-24  0:59             ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-19 15:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-24  6:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 3/7] qapi/net: Add new QMP command for COLO passthrough Zhang Chen
2021-03-19 16:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-22  9:59     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-22 12:16       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-23  9:06         ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-22 12:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-23  9:19     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-23  9:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-30  3:38         ` Zhang, Chen
2021-04-06  8:01           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-08  3:24             ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 4/7] hmp-commands: Add new HMP " Zhang Chen
2021-03-24 10:39   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-04-15 10:51     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-04-16  1:21     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 5/7] net/colo-compare: Move data structure and define to .h file Zhang Chen
2021-03-24 11:02   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-03-29  1:18     ` Zhang, Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 6/7] net/colo-compare: Add passthrough list to CompareState Zhang Chen
2021-03-19  3:55 ` [PATCH V4 7/7] net/net.c: Add handler for COLO passthrough connection Zhang Chen

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