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From: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>
To: Felipe Franciosi <felipe@nutanix.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu - status update
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:55:46 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+F1C+tKZy7T3R6HeMf+iNYq2nGjqizoKT5H=G-=9Zi8gHp=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C4F6A4B0-607A-4BEE-B722-8F5447F1ADB7@nutanix.com>

Hi

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:03 PM Felipe Franciosi <felipe@nutanix.com> wrote:
> The reason I dislike yet another offloading protocol (ie. there is
> vhost, there is vfio, and then there would be qdev-over-socket) is
> that we keep reinventing the wheel. I very much prefer picking
> something solid (eg. VFIO) and keep investing on it.

I don't have a lot of experience with VFIO, so I can't tell if it's
really solid for the user-space case. Alex W could probably discuss
that.

> In that case, wouldn't it be preferable to revive our proposal from
> Edinburgh (KVM Forum 2018)? Our prototypes moved more of the Qemu VFIO
> code to "common" and added a "user" backend underneath it, similar to
> how vhost-user-scsi moved some of vhost-scsi to vhost-scsi-common and
> added vhost-user-scsi. It was centric on PCI, but it doesn't have to
> be. The other side can be implemented in libmuser for facilitating things.

Same idea back in KVM forum 2017 (briefly mentioned at the end of our
talk with Conrad)

The PoC is still around:
https://github.com/elmarco/qemu/tree/wip/vfio-user/contrib/libvfio-user

> I even recall highlighting that vhost-user could be moved underneath
> that later, greatly simplifying lots of other Qemu code.

That would eventually be an option, but vhost-user is already quite
complicated. We could try to split it up somehow for the non-virtio
parts.

cheers

-- 
Marc-André Lureau


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-24  9:08 [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 01/49] multi-process: memory: alloc RAM from file at offset Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 02/49] multi-process: util: Add qemu_thread_cancel() to cancel running thread Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 15:38     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 15:51       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-13 16:04         ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 16:35           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 03/49] multi-process: add a command line option for debug file Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 04/49] multi-process: Add stub functions to facilate build of multi-process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 05/49] multi-process: Add config option for multi-process QEMU Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 06/49] multi-process: build system for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 07/49] multi-process: define mpqemu-link object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 15:47     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 15:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:26     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 08/49] multi-process: add functions to synchronize proxy and remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 09/49] multi-process: setup PCI host bridge for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:25     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 10:37       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 10/49] multi-process: setup a machine object for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:22   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:29     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 11/49] multi-process: setup memory manager for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:34     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 12/49] multi-process: remote process initialization Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 13/49] multi-process: introduce proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 14/49] mutli-process: build remote command line args Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 15/49] multi-process: PCI BAR read/write handling for proxy & remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 16/49] multi-process: Add LSI device proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 17/49] multi-process: Synchronize remote memory Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 18/49] multi-process: create IOHUB object to handle irq Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 19/49] multi-process: configure remote side devices Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:05   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 20/49] multi-process: add qdev_proxy_add to create proxy devices Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 21/49] multi-process: remote: add setup_devices and setup_drive msg processing Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 22/49] multi-process: remote: use fd for socket from parent process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 23/49] multi-process: remote: add create_done condition Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 24/49] multi-process: add processing of remote drive and device command line Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 25/49] multi-process: Introduce build flags to separate remote process code Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 26/49] multi-process: refractor vl.c code to re-use in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 27/49] multi-process: add remote option Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 28/49] multi-process: add remote options parser Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 29/49] multi-process: add parse_cmdline in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 30/49] multi-process: send heartbeat messages to remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:01     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 12:19       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 31/49] multi-process: handle heartbeat messages in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 32/49] multi-process: Use separate MMIO communication channel Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:14     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 12:31       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 33/49] multi-process: perform device reset in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:15     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 34/49] multi-process/mon: choose HMP commands based on target Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 35/49] multi-process/mon: stub functions to enable QMP module for remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 36/49] multi-process/mon: enable QMP module support in the " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 37/49] multi-process/mon: Refactor monitor/chardev functions out of vl.c Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 38/49] multi-process/mon: Initialize QMP module for remote processes Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 39/49] multi-process: prevent duplicate memory initialization in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 40/49] multi-process/mig: build migration module in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 41/49] multi-process/mig: Enable VMSD save in the Proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-13 16:32     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 17:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-18 15:42         ` Jag Raman
2019-11-22 10:34           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 42/49] multi-process/mig: Send VMSD of remote to " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 43/49] multi-process/mig: Load VMSD in the proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 44/49] multi-process/mig: refactor runstate_check into common file Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 45/49] multi-process/mig: Synchronize runstate of remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:17   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:33     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 46/49] multi-process/mig: Restore the VMSD in " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 47/49] multi-process: Enable support for multiple devices in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:21     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 48/49] multi-process: add the concept description to docs/devel/qemu-multiprocess Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-25 19:33   ` Elena Ufimtseva
2019-11-07 15:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-11 15:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 49/49] multi-process: add configure and usage information Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-07 14:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-07 14:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-08 11:17       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-08 11:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-07 14:39     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-07 15:53       ` Jag Raman
2019-11-08 11:14         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-25  2:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu no-reply
2019-10-25  2:08 ` no-reply
2019-10-25  2:10 ` no-reply
2019-11-21 12:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-10  6:47 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu - status update Elena Ufimtseva
2019-12-13 10:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-16 19:46     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2019-12-16 19:57       ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-17 16:33         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-17 22:57           ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-18  0:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-19 13:36               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-20 17:15                 ` John G Johnson
2020-01-02 10:00                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-02 10:04                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-19 11:55             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-19 12:33               ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-19 12:55                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-12-20  9:47                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-20  9:50                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-20 14:14                       ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-20 15:25                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-20 16:00                           ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-02-25  9:16                           ` Thanos Makatos
2019-12-20 10:22                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-02 10:42                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-02 11:03                         ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-01-02 18:55                           ` Marc-André Lureau [this message]
2020-01-08 16:31                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-03 15:59                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-14  1:56                             ` John G Johnson
2020-01-17 17:25                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-19 16:40                 ` Jag Raman
2019-12-19 12:50             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-12-19 16:46               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-02 16:01           ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-01-03 15:00             ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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