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From: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, QEMU <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] RFC: add -mem-shared option
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:40:09 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+F1CL1s450gUmGK9hzSgk4Y3XSNTzdt2OdU6z65y1hKGjxeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191129202137.GI14595@habkost.net>

Hi

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 12:23 AM Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:31:36AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 28/11/19 17:10, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 06:15:16PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Setting up shared memory for vhost-user is a bit complicated from
> > >> command line, as it requires NUMA setup such as: m 4G -object
> > >> memory-backend-file,id=mem,size=4G,mem-path=/dev/shm,share=on -numa
> > >> node,memdev=mem.
> > >>
> > >> Instead, I suggest to add a -mem-shared option for non-numa setups,
> > >> that will make the -mem-path or anonymouse memory shareable.
> > >
> > > Can we make this be a "-m" option?
> > >
> > > Or, even better: can we make "-m" options be automatically
> > > translated to memory-backend-* options somehow?
> > >
> >
> > The original idea was to always support one NUMA node, so that you could
> > do "-numa node,memdev=..." to specify a memory backend with -object.
> > However, this is not possible anymore since
> >
> >     if (!mc->cpu_index_to_instance_props ||
> >         !mc->get_default_cpu_node_id) {
> >         error_setg(errp, "NUMA is not supported by this machine-type");
> >         return;
> >     }
> >
> > has been added to hw/core/numa.c.
> >
> > Therefore, I think instead of -mem-shared we should add a "-m
> > memdev=..." option.  This option:
> >
> > * would be mutually exclusive with both -mem-path
> >
> > * would be handled from allocate_system_memory_nonnuma.
> >
> > * could be mutually exclusive "-numa node", or could just be mutually
> > exclusive with "-numa node,memdev=..." (the logical conclusion of that
> > however would be an undeprecation of "-numa node,mem=...", so that has
> > to be taken into account as well).
>
> I completely agree we could do this.  I just think this misses
> completely the point of this series, because usability of:
>
>   -object memory-backend-file,...,share=on,id=mem -m ...,memdev=mem
>
> is not much better than the usability of:
>
>   -object memory-backend-file,...,share=on,id=mem -numa node,memdev=mem
>

+1
Perhaps when all RAM allocation will occur through memory-backend,
"-mem-shared" could be simply an alias to "-global
memory-backend.shared=on"


-- 
Marc-André Lureau


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-01 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-28 14:15 [PATCH 0/2] RFC: add -mem-shared option Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-28 14:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] memfd: add qemu_memfd_open() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-28 14:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add -mem-shared option Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-28 16:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-28 16:28   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-28 20:31     ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-29 10:07       ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29 10:11         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-29 12:01           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-29 20:31             ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-29 12:16           ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29 17:46             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-02  7:39               ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-02 21:00                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-12-03  8:56                   ` Thomas Huth
2019-12-03 14:43                     ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-09 20:58                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-12-10 10:34                         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-10 13:09                           ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-03 21:34                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-28 16:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] RFC: add " Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-29  9:18   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29  9:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-29 10:23     ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29 11:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-29 20:21     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-12-01 15:40       ` Marc-André Lureau [this message]
2019-12-01 18:03         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-28 16:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-29  9:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-13 11:39     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-13 13:12       ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29  4:37 ` no-reply
2019-11-29  5:34 ` no-reply
2019-11-29  7:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-29  7:30   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-29  9:27     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-29  9:31       ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-29  9:42         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-29  9:45           ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-29 11:44             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-29  9:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-29  9:39         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-29  9:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-29 10:13         ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-29 11:20           ` Paolo Bonzini

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