From: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
libvir-list@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
xiechanglong.d@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
armbru@redhat.com, yur@virtuozzo.com,
nshirokovskiy@virtuozzo.com, wencongyang2@huawei.com,
den@openvz.org, dim@virtuozzo.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] qapi: deprecate drive-backup
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 11:57:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJO9owtr4N+1Ta7k@paraplu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210505135803.67896-4-vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 04:58:03PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> Modern way is using blockdev-add + blockdev-backup, which provides a
> lot more control on how target is opened.
>
> As example of drive-backup problems consider the following:
>
> User of drive-backup expects that target will be opened in the same
> cache and aio mode as source. Corresponding logic is in
> drive_backup_prepare(), where we take bs->open_flags of source.
>
> It works rather bad if source was added by blockdev-add. Assume source
> is qcow2 image. On blockdev-add we should specify aio and cache options
> for file child of qcow2 node. What happens next:
>
> drive_backup_prepare() looks at bs->open_flags of qcow2 source node.
> But there no BDRV_O_NOCAHE neither BDRV_O_NATIVE_AIO: BDRV_O_NOCAHE is
> places in bs->file->bs->open_flags, and BDRV_O_NATIVE_AIO is nowhere,
> as file-posix parse options and simply set s->use_linux_aio.
>
> The documentation is updated in a minimal way, so that drive-backup is
> noted only as a deprecated command, and blockdev-backup used in most of
> places.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
>
> TODO: We also need to deprecate drive-backup transaction action..
> But union members in QAPI doesn't support 'deprecated' feature. I tried
> to dig a bit, but failed :/ Markus, could you please help with it? At
> least by advice?
>
> docs/interop/live-block-operations.rst | 47 +++++++++++++++++---------
> docs/system/deprecated.rst | 11 ++++++
> qapi/block-core.json | 5 ++-
The core changes itself looks good; I have some minor nit-picks below,
hope that's not annoying. :-)
With those addressed:
Reviewed-by: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
> 3 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/docs/interop/live-block-operations.rst b/docs/interop/live-block-operations.rst
> index 1073b930dc..f71f79ae2a 100644
> --- a/docs/interop/live-block-operations.rst
> +++ b/docs/interop/live-block-operations.rst
> @@ -116,8 +116,8 @@ QEMU block layer supports.
> (3) ``drive-mirror`` (and ``blockdev-mirror``): Synchronize a running
> disk to another image.
>
> -(4) ``drive-backup`` (and ``blockdev-backup``): Point-in-time (live) copy
> - of a block device to a destination.
> +(4) ``blockdev-backup`` (and deprecated ``drive-backup``): Point-in-time
> + (live) copy of a block device to a destination.
nit: s/deprecated ``drive-backup``/the deprecated ``drive-backup``/
>
> .. _`Interacting with a QEMU instance`:
> @@ -553,13 +553,14 @@ Currently, there are four different kinds:
>
> (3) ``none`` -- Synchronize only the new writes from this point on.
>
> - .. note:: In the case of ``drive-backup`` (or ``blockdev-backup``),
> - the behavior of ``none`` synchronization mode is different.
> - Normally, a ``backup`` job consists of two parts: Anything
> - that is overwritten by the guest is first copied out to
> - the backup, and in the background the whole image is
> - copied from start to end. With ``sync=none``, it's only
> - the first part.
> + .. note:: In the case of ``blockdev-backup`` (or deprecated
> + ``drive-backup``), the behavior of ``none``
> + synchronization mode is different. Normally, a
> + ``backup`` job consists of two parts: Anything that is
> + overwritten by the guest is first copied out to the
> + backup, and in the background the whole image is copied
> + from start to end. With ``sync=none``, it's only the
> + first part.
>
> (4) ``incremental`` -- Synchronize content that is described by the
> dirty bitmap
> @@ -924,19 +925,22 @@ Shutdown the guest, by issuing the ``quit`` QMP command::
> }
>
>
> -Live disk backup --- ``drive-backup`` and ``blockdev-backup``
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> +Live disk backup --- ``blockdev-backup`` and deprecated``drive-backup``
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here too, missing the article "the": "the deprecated".
> -The ``drive-backup`` (and its newer equivalent ``blockdev-backup``) allows
> +The ``blockdev-backup`` (and deprecated ``drive-backup``) allows
> you to create a point-in-time snapshot.
>
> -In this case, the point-in-time is when you *start* the ``drive-backup``
> -(or its newer equivalent ``blockdev-backup``) command.
> +In this case, the point-in-time is when you *start* the
> +``blockdev-backup`` (or deprecated ``drive-backup``) command.
>
>
> QMP invocation for ``drive-backup``
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> +Note that ``drive-backup`` command is deprecated since Qemu 6.1 and
> +will be removed in future.
nit: Let's consistently spell QEMU in all caps, please: s/Qemu/QEMU/
> Yet again, starting afresh with our example disk image chain::
>
> [A] <-- [B] <-- [C] <-- [D]
> @@ -961,11 +965,22 @@ will be issued, indicating the live block device job operation has
> completed, and no further action is required.
>
>
> +Moving from deprecated ``drive-backup`` to newer ``blockdev-backup``
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/from/from the/
> +``blockdev-backup`` differs in a way of specifying backup target.
I might slightly rephrase it this way:
``blockdev-backup`` differs from ``drive-backup`` in how you specify
the backup target.
> +With ``blockdev-backup`` you can't specify filename as a target.
> +Instead you use node-name of existing block node, which you may add
Can use literals also for node-name: s/node-name/``node-name``
> +by ``blockdev-add`` or ``blockdev-create`` commands. Correspondingly,
> +``blockdev-backup`` doesn't have ``mode`` and ``format`` arguments
> +which don't apply to existing block node. See following sections for
s/to/to an/
> +details and examples.
> +
> +
> Notes on ``blockdev-backup``
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> -The ``blockdev-backup`` command is equivalent in functionality to
> -``drive-backup``, except that it operates at node-level in a Block Driver
> +The ``blockdev-backup`` operates at node-level in a Block Driver
> State (BDS) graph.
s/``blockdev-backup``/``blockdev-backup`` command/
> E.g. the sequence of actions to create a point-in-time backup
> diff --git a/docs/system/deprecated.rst b/docs/system/deprecated.rst
> index 80cae86252..676d72a1ed 100644
> --- a/docs/system/deprecated.rst
> +++ b/docs/system/deprecated.rst
> @@ -186,6 +186,17 @@ Use the more generic commands ``block-export-add`` and ``block-export-del``
> instead. As part of this deprecation, where ``nbd-server-add`` used a
> single ``bitmap``, the new ``block-export-add`` uses a list of ``bitmaps``.
>
> +``drive-backup`` (since 6.1)
> +''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> +
> +Use ``blockdev-backup`` in pair with ``blockdev-add`` instead.
nit: s/in pair/in combination/
> +This change primarily separates the creation/opening process of the backup
> +target with explicit, separate steps. ``blockdev-backup`` uses mostly the
> +same arguments as ``drive-backup``, except the ``format`` and ``mode``
> +options are removed in favor of using explicit ``blockdev-create`` and
> +``blockdev-add`` calls. See :doc:`/interop/live-block-operations` for
> +details.
The rest reads good to me. Thanks for fixing this.
[...]
--
/kashyap
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-06 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-05 13:58 [PATCH v2 0/3] qapi & doc: deprecate drive-backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-05 13:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] docs/block-replication: use blockdev-backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-14 20:23 ` John Snow
2021-05-05 13:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] docs/interop/bitmaps: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-06 9:34 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-05-14 20:27 ` John Snow
2021-05-05 13:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] qapi: deprecate drive-backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-06 9:57 ` Kashyap Chamarthy [this message]
2021-05-14 22:38 ` John Snow
2021-05-24 14:06 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-24 18:37 ` John Snow
2021-09-01 13:29 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-01 14:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-08 11:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-08 11:46 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-06-09 10:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-07-05 19:12 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-15 19:25 ` Markus Armbruster
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