From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: thuth@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com, david@redhat.com,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
pasic@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/9] s390x: toplogy: adding drawers and books to smp parsing
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:52:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ecb2932e-7595-c4a4-5480-9c77ecf3e34d@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czre9uar.fsf@redhat.com>
On 7/19/21 5:50 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16 2021, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:44:49PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 16 2021, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:10:04AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 15 2021, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/15/21 8:16 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>>>> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Drawers and Books are levels 4 and 3 of the S390 CPU
>>>>>>>>> topology.
>>>>>>>>> We allow the user to define these levels and we will
>>>>>>>>> store the values inside the S390CcwMachineState.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Double-checking: are these members specific to S390?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes AFAIK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes me wonder whether they should be conditional on TARGET_S390X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens when you specify them for another target? Silently
>>>>>> ignored, or error?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering whether we should include them in the base machine state
>>>>> and treat them as we treat 'dies' (i.e. the standard parser errors out
>>>>> if they are set, and only the s390x parser supports them.)
>>>>
>>>> To repeat what i just wrote in my reply to patch 1, I think we ought to
>>>> think about a different approach to handling the usage constraints,
>>>> which doesn't require full re-implementation of the smp_parse method
>>>> each time. There should be a way for each target to report topology
>>>> constraints, such the the single smp_parse method can do the right
>>>> thing, especially wrt error reporting for unsupported values.
>>>
>>> That would mean that all possible fields would need to go into common
>>> code, right?
>>
>> Yes, that is an implication of what i'm suggesting.
>>
>>> I'm wondering whether there are more architecture/cpu specific values
>>> lurking in the corner, it would get unwieldy if we need to go beyond the
>>> existing fields and drawers/books.
>>
>> Is the book/drawer thing architecture specific, or is it machine
>> type / CPU specific. ie do /all/ the s390x machine types / CPUS
>> QEMU support the book/drawer concept, or only a subset.
>
> Should not be by machine type, but might be by cpu model (e.g. older
> hardware lacking the needed support for exposing this to the guest.) IBM
> folks, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Looks correct to me this is an information indicated by a facility
introduced with Z10 if I do not make an error.
Regards,
Pierre
>
>> If only a subset, then restricting it per target on QAPI doesn't
>> fully solve the root problem, and we instead are better focusing
>> on accurate runtime error reporting.
>
> Nod. Runtime error reporting should also be more flexible.
>
--
Pierre Morel
IBM Lab Boeblingen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-20 7:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-14 16:53 [PATCH v1 0/9] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] s390x: smp: s390x dedicated smp parsing Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 8:54 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-16 9:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-16 10:59 ` Pierre Morel
[not found] ` <e4865ad6-f8ec-e7ba-66ef-9c95334ba9b3@linux.ibm.com>
2021-07-19 15:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-19 15:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-20 7:37 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-20 8:33 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 10:47 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] s390x: toplogy: adding drawers and books to " Pierre Morel
2021-07-15 6:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-07-15 8:19 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-15 10:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-07-16 9:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-16 9:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-16 10:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-16 10:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-19 15:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-20 7:52 ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2021-07-20 8:20 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-20 8:46 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-20 9:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-20 9:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-20 12:29 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 9:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-16 11:08 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] s390x: cpu topology: CPU topology objects and structures Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] s390x: Topology list entries and SYSIB 15.x.x Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] s390x: topology: implementating Store Topology System Information Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] s390x: kvm: topology: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 9:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-16 11:23 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 11:56 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] s390x: SCLP: reporting the maximum nested topology entries Pierre Morel
2021-07-16 9:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-16 11:12 ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] s390x: numa: define drawers and books for NUMA Pierre Morel
2021-07-14 16:53 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] s390x: numa: implement NUMA for S390x Pierre Morel
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