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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	aliceryhl@google.com, andrew@lunn.ch
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:26:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230616112636.5b216a78@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72mAHv8ozBsZ9-ax9kY8OfESFAc462CxrKNv0gC3r0=Xmg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:23:01 +0200 Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Not necessarily. It is true that, in general, the kernel does not
> want/accept duplicate implementations.
> 
> However, this is a bit of a special situation, and there may be some
> reasons to allow for it in a given subsystem. For instance:
> 
>   - The need to experiment with Rust.

Duplicated driver in a new language means nobody has a real incentive
to use it in production. That really mutes the signal we get out of the
experiment. At the same time IIUC building the Rust code is not trivial,
so IDK if we're ready to force people to use it. Ugh.

Do you have any idea how long it will take until one can 
 dnf install $rust
and have that be enough to be build a kernel (for the two major arches)?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-16 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-13  4:53 [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-13  4:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-15 13:01   ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-21 13:13     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-25  9:52       ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-25 14:27         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-25 17:06           ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-21 22:44   ` Boqun Feng
2023-06-22  0:19     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-13  4:53 ` [PATCH 2/5] rust: add support for ethernet operations FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-13  7:19   ` Ariel Miculas
2023-06-15 13:03   ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-15 13:44     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-13  4:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] rust: add support for get_stats64 in struct net_device_ops FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-13  4:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] rust: add methods for configure net_device FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-15 13:06   ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-13  4:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] samples: rust: add dummy network driver FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-15 13:08   ` Benno Lossin
2023-06-22  0:23     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-15  6:01 ` [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15  8:58   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-16  2:19     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 12:18       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-16 13:23         ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-16 13:41           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-16 18:26           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-06-16 20:05             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-16 13:04       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16 18:31         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 13:18       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-15 12:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16  2:02     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16  3:47       ` Richard Cochran
2023-06-16 17:59         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16 13:02       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-16 13:14         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16 13:48           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-16 14:43             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16 16:01               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-19 11:27               ` Emilio Cobos Álvarez
2023-06-20 18:09                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-20 19:12                   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-06-21 12:30             ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-06-16 18:40         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 19:00           ` Alice Ryhl
2023-06-16 19:10             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 19:23               ` Alice Ryhl
2023-06-16 20:04                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-17 10:08                   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-06-17 10:15                     ` Greg KH
2023-06-19  8:50                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-19  9:46                       ` Greg KH
2023-06-19 11:05                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-06-19 11:14                           ` Greg KH
2023-06-19 13:20                           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-20 11:16                             ` David Laight
2023-06-20 15:47                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-20 16:56                       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-06-20 17:44                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-20 17:55                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-06-16 12:28   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-06-16 13:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-16 13:24       ` Alice Ryhl

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