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From: Alexey Brodkin <alexey.brodkin@synopsys.com>
To: Vineet Gupta <vineet.gupta1@synopsys.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] ARC: Explicitly set ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN = 8
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 08:50:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4881796E12491D4BB15146FE0209CE64681DB01F@DE02WEMBXB.internal.synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6138aeb-9ce4-fbfa-4d6a-b76f189a3e47@synopsys.com>

Hi Vineet, Peter, all,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:24 AM
> To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>; Alexey Brodkin <alexey.brodkin@synopsys.com>; linux-snps-
> arc@lists.infradead.org; Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> stable@vger.kernel.org; Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARC: Explicitly set ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN = 8
> 
> On 2/13/19 4:56 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > Personally I think u64 and company should already force natural
> > alignment; but alas.
> 
> But there is an ISA/ABI angle here too. e.g. On 32-bit ARC, LDD (load double) is
> allowed to take a 32-bit aligned address to load a register pair. Thus all u64
> need not be 64-bit aligned (unless attribute aligned 8 etc) hence the relaxation
> in ABI (alignment of long long is 4). You could certainly argue that we end up
> undoing some of it anyways by defining things like ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to 8, but
> still...
> 
> > I though that was part of the reason we have __u64
> > and co., so that ABI is invariant to kernel alignment changes.
> 
> Apparently not.
> 
> >>> I suspect the slab allocator should be returning 8 byte aligned addresses
> >>> on all systems....
> >>
> >> why ? As I understand it is still not fool proof against the expected alignment of
> >> inner members. There ought to be a better way to enforce all this.
> >
> > I agree that for ARC ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN should be at least 8.
> 
> This issue aside, are there other reasons ? Because making it 8 on ARC is just
> pending the eventuality for later.

But that's pretty much the same for other 32-bit arches that have 64-bit atomics
like ARM etc. From what I may see from ARM's documentation for LDREXD/SRREXD they
require double-word alignment of data as well.

That said if for some reason atomic64_t variable is unaligned execution on
any (or at least most) 32-bit architectures will lead to run-time failure,
i.e. we'll know about it and this will be fixed.

And what I'm doing by that change (ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN=8 for ARC) I'm just
working-around peculiarity of ARC ABI.

Out of curiosity I checked if there're any other occurrences of "alingof(long long)"
and there seems to be a couple of more:
----------------------------------->8-----------------------------
# git grep alignof | grep "long long"

...

kernel/workqueue.c:5693:        WARN_ON(__alignof__(struct pool_workqueue) < __alignof__(long long));
mm/slab.c:155:#define   REDZONE_ALIGN           max(BYTES_PER_WORD, __alignof__(unsigned long long))
mm/slab.c:2034: if (ralign > __alignof__(unsigned long long))
----------------------------------->8-----------------------------

Not really sure how important is "kernel/workqueue.c" part but in case of "mm/slab.c"
shouldn't we use ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN there instead of that "not very meaningful" __alignof__(long long)?

-Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-14  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-08 10:55 [PATCH] ARC: Explicitly set ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN = 8 Alexey Brodkin
2019-02-12 17:17 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-02-12 17:30   ` David Laight
2019-02-12 17:45     ` Vineet Gupta
2019-02-13 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:13         ` David Laight
2019-02-13 23:23         ` Vineet Gupta
2019-02-14  8:50           ` Alexey Brodkin [this message]
2019-02-14 10:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15  1:34             ` Vineet Gupta
2019-02-18  8:53               ` Alexey Brodkin
2019-02-19 23:30                 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-02-14 10:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 10:44             ` Alexey Brodkin
2019-02-14 11:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 12:05                 ` Alexey Brodkin
2019-02-14 12:24                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 14:14                 ` David Laight

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