From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E19CC433DB for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF83761993 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230209AbhCVTZr (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:25:47 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57048 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230358AbhCVTZV (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:25:21 -0400 Received: from wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42:1000:50ed:8234::]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01B1DC061574; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip4d142c50.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.44.80] helo=[192.168.66.200]); authenticated by wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1lOQAv-00060F-Hz; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:25:17 +0100 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ksummit , workflows@vger.kernel.org, Konstantin Ryabitsev References: <613fe50d-fc9c-6282-f1f3-34653acb2ee9@leemhuis.info> From: Thorsten Leemhuis Subject: Re: RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues" focussed on issues/bugs and regressions Message-ID: <62b60247-7838-a624-706e-b1a54785b2a5@leemhuis.info> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:25:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1616441120;4b7f5377; X-HE-SMSGID: 1lOQAv-00060F-Hz Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On 22.03.21 19:32, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:18 AM Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> >> I even requested a >> "linux-regressions@vger.kernel.org" a while later, but didn't hear >> anything back; and, sadly, about the same time I started having trouble >> finding spare time for working on regression tracking. :-/ > > Honestly, I'd much prefer the name 'linux-regressions' as being much > more targeted than 'linux-issues'. That only solves one of the two problem I'm trying to solve (albeit the one that is more important to me). That way users still have no easy way to query for reports about issues that are no regressions – say something is broken and they have no idea if it once worked or never worked at all. > Make it clear that the list is only > for regressions that people can describe some way, rather than some > general "I have issues with xyz". > > The more clear-cut the list is, the better, I think. I agree to the last point and yeah, maybe regressions are the more important problem we should work on – at least from the perspective of kernel development. But from the users perspective (and reporting-issues.rst is written for that perspective) it feel a bit unsatisfying to not have a solution to query for existing report, regressions or not. Hmmmm... Ciao, Thorsten