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From: Oleksandr <olekstysh@gmail.com>
To: Wei Chen <Wei.Chen@arm.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>,
	Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 23/23] [RFC] libxl: Add support for virtio-disk configuration
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:38:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22ec8e33-6c53-69fa-3cc3-00ca00e1e20e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR08MB3747DB347ED64AF7DF99C5A19EE80@AM0PR08MB3747.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>


On 11.11.20 06:28, Wei Chen wrote:
> Hi Oleksandr,

Hi Wei


>>>> An example of domain configuration (two disks are assigned to the guest,
>>>> the latter is in readonly mode):
>>>>
>>>> vdisk = [ 'backend=DomD, disks=rw:/dev/mmcblk0p3;ro:/dev/mmcblk1p3' ]
>>>>
>>> Can we keep use the same 'disk' parameter for virtio-disk, but add an option
>> like
>>>    "model=virtio-disk"?
>>> For example:
>>> disk = [ 'backend=DomD, disks=rw:/dev/mmcblk0p3,model=virtio-disk' ]
>>> Just like what Xen has done for x86 virtio-net.
>> I think, this needs an additional investigation. In general I agree with
>> you that it would be nice to reuse existing 'disk' parameter somehow
>> rather than introducing new one
>> for the same purpose (to handle virtual block device(s)).
>>
>>
>> One note, although both are used for the same purpose they are different
>> in at least one important option.
>>
>> For example:
>> 1. disk = [ 'backend=DomD, phy:/dev/mmcblk0p3, xvda1' ]
>> 2. vdisk = [ 'backend=DomD, disks=rw:/dev/mmcblk0p3' ]
>> As you can see existing "disk" parameter contains xvda1, this means that
>> a new device /dev/xvda1 will appear at the guest side, but "vdisk"
>> doesn't contain anything similar. So with Xen PV driver (xen-blkfront)
> Yes, I understand your concerns. But I think specifying a device name
> for virtio disk is not a mandatory requirement. Even if we're using physical
> disks on bare metal machine, we can't guarantee slot#1 disk is always 'sda'.
> So most modern OS are prefer to use blkid to mount filesystem.
>
>> we are able to configure a device name, but with VirtIO solution
>> (virtio-blk) we aren't (at least I don't know how exactly).
>>
> Just my understanding, not exactly accurate:
> The virtio-blk could not get VDEV information for a bus like Xen-bus. So the disk
> ID is allocated dynamically in bus probe progress. The first probed disk will get
> ID 'a'. And then the ID keeps increasing. If we want to specify the disk ID for virtio
> disk, one possible way to do this is to construct a reasonable position on bus
> (fdt node position of virtio mmio device, PCI Function ID of virtio pci block) for
> virtio disk. But it is not always successful, we can't skip 'vda' to specify a virtio
> disk as 'vdb'.
Thank you for the explanation. I got your point regarding using the same 
disk parameter and I think it makes sense. Now I am focusing on IOREQ 
transport to be available on Arm, and after that (I hope)
I will be able to return to virtio stuff.

-- 
Regards,

Oleksandr Tyshchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-15 16:44 [PATCH V2 00/23] IOREQ feature (+ virtio-mmio) on Arm Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 01/23] x86/ioreq: Prepare IOREQ feature for making it common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20  7:13   ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-04  9:06     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-04  9:59       ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-12 10:58   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 11:09     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-13 11:20       ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 12:45         ` Oleksandr
2020-11-13 14:31           ` Jan Beulich
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 02/23] xen/ioreq: Make x86's IOREQ feature common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20  7:57   ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-10 16:45     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-17 14:47       ` Oleksandr
2020-11-17 15:29         ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-17 16:29           ` Oleksandr
2020-11-17 19:43             ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-12 11:11   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 13:11     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 03/23] xen/ioreq: Make x86's hvm_ioreq_needs_completion() common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20  7:59   ` Paul Durrant
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 04/23] xen/ioreq: Provide alias for the handle_mmio() Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20  9:14   ` Paul Durrant
2020-10-20 10:05     ` Jan Beulich
2020-10-20 10:38       ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-10 19:44         ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11  7:27           ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-11  8:09             ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11  8:16               ` Jan Beulich
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 05/23] xen/ioreq: Make x86's hvm_mmio_first(last)_byte() common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20  9:15   ` Paul Durrant
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 06/23] xen/ioreq: Make x86's hvm_ioreq_(page/vcpu/server) structs common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 07/23] xen/ioreq: Move x86's ioreq_gfn(server) to struct domain Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:21   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 14:05     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-18 12:09   ` Oleksandr
2020-11-18 12:29     ` Paul Durrant
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 08/23] xen/ioreq: Introduce ioreq_params to abstract accesses to arch.hvm.params Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20 10:41   ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-10 20:00     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 09/23] xen/dm: Make x86's DM feature common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:32   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 14:28     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 10/23] xen/mm: Make x86's XENMEM_resource_ioreq_server handling common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:40   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 15:00     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 11/23] xen/ioreq: Move x86's io_completion/io_req fields to struct vcpu Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20 10:55   ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-10 20:59     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11  8:04   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-11  8:14     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 12/23] xen/ioreq: Remove "hvm" prefixes from involved function names Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:45   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-12 12:14     ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-13 15:53     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-23 14:39       ` Oleksandr
2020-11-23 14:56         ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 15:47           ` Oleksandr
2020-11-23 15:54             ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-23 16:36               ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 13/23] xen/ioreq: Use guest_cmpxchg64() instead of cmpxchg() Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 14/23] arm/ioreq: Introduce arch specific bits for IOREQ/DM features Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:48   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 15:48     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 15/23] xen/arm: Stick around in leave_hypervisor_to_guest until I/O has completed Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 16/23] xen/mm: Handle properly reference in set_foreign_p2m_entry() on Arm Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 12:18   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 17:00     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 17/23] xen/ioreq: Introduce domain_has_ioreq_server() Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-20 10:51   ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-10 20:53     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11  8:08       ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-11  8:41         ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11 13:27           ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-11 16:28             ` Paul Durrant
2020-11-11 17:33               ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11 17:31             ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 18/23] xen/dm: Introduce xendevicemodel_set_irq_level DM op Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 19/23] xen/arm: io: Abstract sign-extension Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 20/23] xen/ioreq: Make x86's send_invalidate_req() common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-12 11:55   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-13 16:03     ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 21/23] xen/arm: Add mapcache invalidation handling Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-16  6:29   ` Jan Beulich
2020-10-16  8:41     ` Julien Grall
2020-10-16  8:56       ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-11  0:03       ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11 19:27         ` Julien Grall
2020-11-11 19:42           ` Oleksandr
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 22/23] libxl: Introduce basic virtio-mmio support on Arm Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-15 16:44 ` [PATCH V2 23/23] [RFC] libxl: Add support for virtio-disk configuration Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-09  6:45   ` Wei Chen
2020-11-11  0:53     ` Oleksandr
2020-11-11  4:28       ` Wei Chen
2020-11-13 17:38         ` Oleksandr [this message]
2020-10-29  7:41 ` [PATCH V2 00/23] IOREQ feature (+ virtio-mmio) on Arm Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-29 18:48   ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-29 19:53     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-10-29 21:13       ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-10-29 21:34         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-10-30 11:34         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-31 21:10           ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-11-02  7:23             ` Wei Chen
2020-11-02 18:05               ` Oleksandr
2020-11-03 14:30             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-11-03 21:09               ` Oleksandr
2020-10-29 20:03     ` Alex Bennée
2020-10-29 20:10       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-10-29 22:06       ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko

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