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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xen-devel <Xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/msr: Carry on after a non-"safe" MSR access fails without !panic_on_oops
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:49:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56003506.1050100__36212.6837172129$1442855304$gmane$org@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzKCi6pf0RP8HjDQYDsms6reB5AihuCAHEkVJtoOHk_Yw@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/21/2015 9:36 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Linus, what's your preference?
>
> So quite frankly, is there any reason we don't just implement
> native_read_msr() as just
>
>     unsigned long long native_read_msr(unsigned int msr)
>     {
>        int err;
>        unsigned long long val;
>
>        val = native_read_msr_safe(msr, &err);
>        WARN_ON_ONCE(err);
>        return val;
>     }
>
> Note: no inline, no nothing. Just put it in arch/x86/lib/msr.c, and be
> done with it. I don't see the downside.
>
> How many msr reads are <i>so</i> critical that the function call
> overhead would matter?

if anything qualifies it'd be switch_to() and friends.

note that I'm not entirely happy about the notion of "safe" MSRs.
They're safe as in "won't fault".
Reading random MSRs isn't a generic safe operation though, but the name sort of gives people
the impression that it is. Even with _safe variants, you still need to KNOW the MSR exists (by means
of CPUID or similar) unfortunately.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-21 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1442793572.git.luto@kernel.org>
2015-09-21  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/msr: Carry on after a non-"safe" MSR access fails without !panic_on_oops Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-21  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/msr: Set the return value to zero when native_rdmsr_safe fails Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <130a3b7ef4788baae3a6fe71293ab17442bc9a0a.1442793572.git.luto@kernel.org>
2015-09-21  0:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/msr: Carry on after a non-"safe" MSR access fails without !panic_on_oops Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFy4Chd-PJvxGne=TztPsvFqUG07Ht8mtc4+0oGNZNDOyw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-21  1:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrXqsKcqzfqMO2ctOJJ4X8Kb6vvoUpVDir9F2-a3XwK23w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-21  8:46       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20150921084642.GA30984@gmail.com>
2015-09-21 12:27         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-21 16:36         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]         ` <CA+55aFzKCi6pf0RP8HjDQYDsms6reB5AihuCAHEkVJtoOHk_Yw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-21 16:49           ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
     [not found]           ` <56003506.1050100@linux.intel.com>
2015-09-21 17:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-21 17:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrUSEm_QLxGaBdmy3tQn=WnagvzTaYpy+i14sGUeaOUvTQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-22  8:12               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-21 18:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrUBcDxvtjKC-m97GPwCOHvcoDdGjnMJLukSue8ha55mng@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-21 18:36             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-21 18:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-22  7:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-30 13:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <20150930131002.GK2881@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
2015-09-30 14:01             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20150930140122.GB3285@gmail.com>
2015-09-30 18:04               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrVMV2_3ywQ_t+0rsqzxMm6D9PvDEmOdrie67rRzfj-W_Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-01  7:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20151001071505.GA21542@gmail.com>
2016-03-11 16:48                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrUFakwGL9zpj9TwKX9KbG9czq8fpEViU3nWaCvnpGurew@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-12 16:02                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-30 18:32           ` H. Peter Anvin

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