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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@cardoe.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, Machon Gregory <mbgrego@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: XSM permissive by default.
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 20:11:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DF8653.9060705@cardoe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160309015100.GA5420@localhost.localdomain>


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On 3/8/16 7:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I was wondering if it we should change the default flask_bootparam
> option from permissive to disabled?
> 
> The reason being is that I was startled to see that my xSplice
> code was able to patch the hypervisor from within an PV guest!
> 
> Further testing showed that I could do 'xl debug-keys R' from
> within the guests. This being possible with released 4.6 if I have
> XSM enabled.
> 
> All of this is due to the fact that I had forgotten to load the policy,
> but Xen just told me:
> 
> Flask:  Access controls disabled until policy is loaded.
> 
> which is an understatement. I somehow had expected that if no
> policy was loaded it would revert to the dummy one which has the
> same permission as the non-XSM build. Ha! What a surprise..

That's certainly been my assumption as well.

> 
> Now that the XSM is enabled via config it becomes much more
> easy to enable it..
> 
> Or perhaps change the code to flask so that if there are any
> errors loading the policy it uses the dummy one?
> 

To me that's what that error message from flask meant so I think that's
the most sane default. Being in a worse state than if you had built
without it.

Machon, Something to consider for the Yocto builds as well.

-- 
Doug Goldstein


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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09  1:51 XSM permissive by default Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-09  2:11 ` Doug Goldstein [this message]
2016-03-09 13:24 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-09 21:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-09 22:09     ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-03-10  2:40       ` Doug Goldstein
2016-03-10 17:10         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-10 17:34           ` Doug Goldstein
2016-03-10 17:44           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-10 18:30           ` [PATCH] flask: change default state to enforcing Daniel De Graaf
2016-03-10 19:12             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-10 19:37               ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-03-15 14:48               ` Anshul Makkar
2016-03-11  9:07             ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-11 14:58               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-11 15:39               ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-03-11 15:43                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-11 15:51                   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-04-04 17:12           ` XSM permissive by default Ian Jackson
2016-04-05  8:03             ` Jan Beulich

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