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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Paul Stewart <pstew@chromium.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Stuart Hayes <stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/mtrr: Refactor PAT initialization code
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:34:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB=NE6XEMdwpafGt5csNGeDe3Y9T8Sw0w27+ryptrUHWYs-t2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1459300060.6393.757.camel@hpe.com>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 16:43 -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> I meant to ask about the case where the option the lets a user go in a
>> muck with BIOS settings to disable MTRR e xists and the user disables
>> MTRR. What would happen for fan control in such situations? I'd
>> imagine such cases allow for a system to exist with proper fan
>> control, and allow the kernel to boot without having to deal with the
>> pesky MTRRs at all, while PAT lives on, no?
>
> You mean user disables MTRRs from BIOS setup menu?

Yup!

> I am not a BIOS guy,
> but I do not think it offers such option when the code depends on it...

Darn, I'm pretty sure I've seen such option before... can't seem to
find such a toggle now.

>> When you say regular memory you mean everything else we see as RAM? I
>> was under the impression we'd only need MTRR for a special range of
>> memory, and its up to implementation how they are used. If you can use
>> MTRR to change the cache attribute for regular RAM and if this is
>> actually a requirement if the default MTRR is UC then one way or
>> another a BIOS seems to always require MTRR, either for UC setting for
>> fan control or WB for regular RAM, is that right?
>
> Right, in one way or the other, MTRRs set WB to RAM and UC to MMIO.  PAT is
> overwritten by MTRRs, so RAM must be set to WB.

I see... thanks....

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30  0:34 UTC|newest]

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2016-03-15  0:15               ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/mtrr: Refactor PAT initialization code Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-15 23:48                 ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-15 23:29                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-17 21:56                     ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-18  0:06                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-18 21:35                         ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-29 17:14                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-29 21:46                             ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-29 22:12                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-30  0:16                                 ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-29 23:43                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-30  1:07                                     ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-30  0:34                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-04-09  2:04                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-11 14:30                         ` Toshi Kani
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2016-03-15  0:29             ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/mm/pat: Change pat_disable() to emulate PAT table Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]             ` <20160315002921.GG25147@wotan.suse.de>
2016-03-15  3:11               ` Toshi Kani
     [not found]               ` <1458011476.6393.327.camel@hpe.com>
2016-03-15 11:01                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                 ` <20160315110148.GC4559@pd.tnic>
2016-03-15 15:43                   ` Toshi Kani
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2016-03-15 15:47                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                     ` <20160315154731.GD4559@pd.tnic>
     [not found]                       ` <1458061883.6393.359.camel@hpe.com>
2016-03-15 16:33                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-03-15 17:11                       ` Toshi Kani
2016-03-15 21:31                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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