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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>,
	Wen Congyang <wencongyang2@huawei.com>,
	Xie Changlong <xiechanglong.d@gmail.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] block/backup: add 'always' bitmap sync policy
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:59:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0eba7f8d-d1ed-fd4d-c417-346083cbed9c@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fde15e1-9693-9e46-b5c8-0f657b1eebed@virtuozzo.com>

21.06.2019 15:57, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 20.06.2019 4:03, John Snow wrote:
>> This adds an "always" policy for bitmap synchronization. Regardless of if
>> the job succeeds or fails, the bitmap is *always* synchronized. This means
>> that for backups that fail part-way through, the bitmap retains a record of
>> which sectors need to be copied out to accomplish a new backup using the
>> old, partial result.
>>
>> In effect, this allows us to "resume" a failed backup; however the new backup
>> will be from the new point in time, so it isn't a "resume" as much as it is
>> an "incremental retry." This can be useful in the case of extremely large
>> backups that fail considerably through the operation and we'd like to not waste
>> the work that was already performed.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>   qapi/block-core.json |  5 ++++-
>>   block/backup.c       | 10 ++++++----
>>   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
>> index 0332dcaabc..58d267f1f5 100644
>> --- a/qapi/block-core.json
>> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
>> @@ -1143,6 +1143,9 @@
>>   # An enumeration of possible behaviors for the synchronization of a bitmap
>>   # when used for data copy operations.
>>   #
>> +# @always: The bitmap is always synchronized with remaining blocks to copy,
>> +#          whether or not the operation has completed successfully or not.
> 
> Hmm, now I think that 'always' sounds a bit like 'really always' i.e. during backup
> too, which is confusing.. But I don't have better suggestion.
> 
>> +#
>>   # @conditional: The bitmap is only synchronized when the operation is successul.
>>   #               This is useful for Incremental semantics.
>>   #
>> @@ -1153,7 +1156,7 @@
>>   # Since: 4.1
>>   ##
>>   { 'enum': 'BitmapSyncMode',
>> -  'data': ['conditional', 'never'] }
>> +  'data': ['always', 'conditional', 'never'] }
>>   ##
>>   # @MirrorCopyMode:
>> diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
>> index 627f724b68..beb2078696 100644
>> --- a/block/backup.c
>> +++ b/block/backup.c
>> @@ -266,15 +266,17 @@ static void backup_cleanup_sync_bitmap(BackupBlockJob *job, int ret)
>>       BlockDriverState *bs = blk_bs(job->common.blk);
>>       if (ret < 0 || job->bitmap_mode == BITMAP_SYNC_MODE_NEVER) {
>> -        /* Failure, or we don't want to synchronize the bitmap.
>> -         * Merge the successor back into the parent, delete nothing. */
>> +        /* Failure, or we don't want to synchronize the bitmap. */
>> +        if (job->bitmap_mode == BITMAP_SYNC_MODE_ALWAYS) {
>> +            bdrv_dirty_bitmap_claim(job->sync_bitmap, &job->copy_bitmap);
>> +        }
>> +        /* Merge the successor back into the parent. */
>>           bm = bdrv_reclaim_dirty_bitmap(bs, job->sync_bitmap, NULL);
> 
> Hmm good, it should work. It's a lot more tricky, than just
> "synchronized with remaining blocks to copy", but I'm not sure the we need more details in
> spec.
> 
> What we have in backup? So, from one hand we have an incremental backup, and a bitmap, counting from it.
> On the other hand it's not normal incremental backup, as it don't correspond to any valid state of vm disk,
> and it may be used only as a backing in a chain of further successful incremental backup, yes?
> 
> And then I think: with this mode we can not stop on first error, but ignore it, just leaving dirty bit for
> resulting bitmap.. We have BLOCKDEV_ON_ERROR_IGNORE, which may be used to achieve it, but seems it don't
> work as expected, as in backup_loop() we retry operation if ret < 0 and  action != BLOCK_ERROR_ACTION_REPORT.
> 
> And another thought: can user take a decision of discarding (like CONDITIONAL) or saving in backing chain (like
> ALWAYS) failed backup result _after_ backup job complete? For example, for small resulting backup it may be
> better to discard it and for large - to save.
> Will it work if we start job with ALWAYS mode and autocomplete = false, then on fail we can look at job progress,
> and if it is small we cancel job, otherwise call complete? Or stop, block-job-complete will not work with failure
> scenarios? Then we have to set BLOCKDEV_ON_ERROR_IGNORE, and on first error event decide, cancel or not? But we
> can only cancel or continue..
> 
> Hmm. Cancel. So on cancel and abort you synchronize bitmap too? Seems in bad relation with what cancel should do,
> and in transactions in general...

I mean grouped transaction mode, how should it work with this?

> 
> 
>> -        assert(bm);
>>       } else {
>>           /* Everything is fine, delete this bitmap and install the backup. */
>>           bm = bdrv_dirty_bitmap_abdicate(bs, job->sync_bitmap, NULL);
>> -        assert(bm);
>>       }
>> +    assert(bm);
>>   }
>>   static void backup_commit(Job *job)
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-21 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-20  1:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] bitmaps: introduce 'bitmap' sync mode John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] qapi: add BitmapSyncMode enum John Snow
2019-06-20 14:21   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] block/backup: Add mirror sync mode 'bitmap' John Snow
2019-06-20 15:00   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 16:01     ` John Snow
2019-06-20 18:46       ` Max Reitz
2019-06-21 11:29   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 19:39     ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] block/backup: add 'never' policy to bitmap sync mode John Snow
2019-06-20 15:25   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 16:11     ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] hbitmap: Fix merge when b is empty, and result is not an alias of a John Snow
2019-06-20 15:39   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 16:13     ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] hbitmap: enable merging across granularities John Snow
2019-06-20 15:47   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 18:13     ` John Snow
2019-06-20 16:47   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-21 11:45     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 11:41   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_dirty_bitmap_claim John Snow
2019-06-20 16:02   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 16:36     ` John Snow
2019-06-21 11:58       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 21:34         ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] block/backup: add 'always' bitmap sync policy John Snow
2019-06-20 17:00   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 18:44     ` John Snow
2019-06-20 18:53       ` Max Reitz
2019-06-21 12:57   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 12:59     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2019-06-21 13:08       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 13:44         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-21 20:58           ` John Snow
2019-06-21 21:48             ` Max Reitz
2019-06-21 22:52               ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] iotests: add testing shim for script-style python tests John Snow
2019-06-20 17:09   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 17:26     ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 18:47       ` John Snow
2019-06-20 18:55         ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] iotests: teach run_job to cancel pending jobs John Snow
2019-06-20 17:17   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] iotests: teach FilePath to produce multiple paths John Snow
2019-06-20 17:22   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] iotests: add test 257 for bitmap-mode backups John Snow
2019-06-20 18:35   ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 19:08     ` John Snow
2019-06-20 19:48       ` Max Reitz
2019-06-20 19:59         ` John Snow
2019-06-20  1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] block/backup: loosen restriction on readonly bitmaps John Snow
2019-06-20 18:37   ` Max Reitz

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