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From: "Vaittinen, Matti" <Matti.Vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendan.higgins@linux.dev>,
	David Gow <davidgow@google.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kunit-dev@googlegroups.com" <kunit-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"linux-iio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/8] drivers: kunit: Generic helpers for test device creation
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 07:17:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12ea1d68-2a3c-0aa7-976c-7bd3eef35239@fi.rohmeurope.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBtPhoelZo4U5jwC@kroah.com>

On 3/22/23 20:57, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 03:48:00PM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Thanks for looking at this.
>>
>> On 3/22/23 14:07, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:05:55AM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * test_kunit_helper_alloc_device - Allocate a mock device for a KUnit test
>>>> + * @test: The test context object
>>>> + *
>>>> + * This allocates a fake struct &device to create a mock for a KUnit
>>>> + * test. The device will also be bound to a fake driver. It will thus be
>>>> + * able to leverage the usual infrastructure and most notably the
>>>> + * device-managed resources just like a "real" device.
>>>
>>> What specific "usual infrastructure" are you wanting to access here?
>>>
>>> And again, if you want a fake device, make a virtual one, by just
>>> calling device_create().
>>>
>>> Or are you wanting to do "more" with that device pointer than
>>> device_create() can give you?
>>
>> Personally, I was (am) only interested in devm_ unwinding. I guess the
>> device_create(), device_add(), device_remove()... (didn't study this
>> sequence in details so sorry if there is errors) could've been sufficient
>> for me. I haven't looked how much of the code that there is for 'platform
>> devices' should be duplicated to support that sequence for testability
>> purposes.
> 
> Any device can access devm_ code, there's no need for it to be a
> platform device at all.
> 
>> The biggest thing for me is that I don't like the idea of creating own 'test
>> device' in <add subsystem here> while we already have some in DRM (or
>> others). Thus, I do see value in adding generic helpers for supporting
>> running KUnit tests on devm_* APIs. Hence it'd be good to have _some_
>> support for it.
> 
> I agree, let's use a virtual device and a virtual bus (you can use the
> auxbus code for this as that's all there for this type of thing)

Hm. The auxiliary_devices require parent. What would be the best way to 
deal with that in KUnit tests?

> then you can test the devm_* code, _AND_ you can test the driver core at
> the same time.
> 
>> And having them in drivers/base/test seemed like a correct
>> place to me. What I really don't know is if there are legitimate use-cases
>> for using platform_devices in DRM tests. Perhaps Maxime can shed light on
>> that.
> 
> I agree that this could be in drivers/base/test/ but then let's test the
> driver core, not just provide a dummy platform device.
> 
> If you want to test the platform driver/device api, that would be great
> too, that can be plaform device/driver specific, but don't use one for
> some other random driver core functionality please.

I am very conservative what comes to adding unit tests due to the huge 
inertia they add to any further development. I usually only add tests to 
APIs which I know won't require changing (I don't know such in-kernel 
APIs) - or to functions which I think are error-prone. So, I am probably 
one of the last persons adding UTs to code I don't know :)

Yours,
	-- Matti

-- 
Matti Vaittinen
Linux kernel developer at ROHM Semiconductors
Oulu Finland

~~ When things go utterly wrong vim users can always type :help! ~~


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-23  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-22  9:05 [PATCH v5 0/8] Support ROHM BU27034 ALS sensor Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:05 ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:05 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] drivers: kunit: Generic helpers for test device creation Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22 12:04   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-22 12:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-22 13:48     ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22 18:57       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23  7:17         ` Vaittinen, Matti [this message]
2023-03-23  8:58           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23  9:20             ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 10:25               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23 10:43                 ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 10:01             ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 10:27               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23 11:00                 ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 10:12         ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-23 10:21           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23 12:16             ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 12:29               ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-23 13:02                 ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23 16:36                   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-24  6:11                     ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-24  6:34                       ` David Gow
2023-03-24  6:51                         ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-24  9:52                           ` David Gow
2023-03-24 10:05                             ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-24 10:17                               ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-25  4:35                                 ` David Gow
2023-03-25  7:26                                   ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-24 12:46                         ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-24 12:31                       ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-25  5:40                         ` David Gow
2023-03-29 19:43                           ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-25 17:50                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-26 17:16                           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2023-04-01 15:30                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-29 19:46                           ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-01 15:36                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-24 12:36             ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-24 12:43               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-24 13:02                 ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-24 13:42                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-22 12:08   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23  7:30   ` David Gow
2023-03-23  8:35     ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-23  9:02     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-23 10:07     ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-22  9:06 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] drm/tests: helpers: Use generic helpers Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:06   ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:06 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] dt-bindings: iio: light: Support ROHM BU27034 Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:06 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] iio: light: Add gain-time-scale helpers Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:07 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] iio: test: test " Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-24  6:29   ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:07 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] MAINTAINERS: Add IIO " Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22  9:07 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] iio: light: ROHM BU27034 Ambient Light Sensor Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-26 16:19   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-27  7:16     ` Vaittinen, Matti
2023-03-22  9:08 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] MAINTAINERS: Add ROHM BU27034 Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Support ROHM BU27034 ALS sensor Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-22 10:01   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-22 10:34   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-03-22 10:34     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-03-22 10:59     ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22 10:59       ` Matti Vaittinen
2023-03-22 11:02       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-22 11:02         ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-23  9:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2023-03-23  9:28         ` Maxime Ripard

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