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From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
To: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] btrfs: Introduce new mount option to disable tree log replay
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:44:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1450122242.6629.45.camel@scientia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <566F199A.5030704@gmail.com>

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On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 14:33 -0500, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
> The traditional reasoning was that read-only meant that users
> couldn't 
> change anything
Where I'd however count the atime changes to.
The atimes wouldn't change magically, but only because the user stared
some program, configured some daemon, etc. ... which reads/writes/etc.
the file.


> , not that the actual data on disk wouldn't change. 
> That, and there's been some really brain-dead software over the years
> that depended on atimes being right (now, the only remaining software
> I 
> know of that even uses them at all is Mutt).
Wasn't tmpwatcher anoterh candidate?


> This should be 'Nothing on the backing device may change as a result
> of 
> the FS', nitpicking I know, but we should be specific so that we 
> hopefully avoid ending up in the same situation again.
Of course, you're right! :-)

(especially when btrfs should ever be formalised in a standards
document, this should read like:
>hard-ro: Nothing on the backing device may change as a result of the
>FS, however, e.g. maleware, may directly destroy the data on the
>blockdevice ;-)


Chris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-14 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10  2:34 [PATCH v3] btrfs: Introduce new mount option to disable tree log replay Qu Wenruo
2015-12-14 17:32 ` David Sterba
2015-12-14 17:50   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 19:16     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-14 19:33       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 19:44         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer [this message]
2015-12-14 20:20           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 23:34             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-15 13:31               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-16 13:53     ` David Sterba
2015-12-14 19:11   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16  1:36   ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-16  2:13     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 11:10     ` Duncan
2015-12-16 11:45       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-17  1:09         ` Duncan
2015-12-17  1:46           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 12:12       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-16 12:34         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 12:57           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-16 13:01             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 13:58     ` David Sterba

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