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From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Robert Karszniewicz <avoidr@posteo.de>,
	Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] doc: replace "alice" and "bob" examples
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:46:47 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18b53cae-6da9-c970-b994-caee11c5baf9@crashcourse.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover-0.6-00000000000-20210615T161330Z-avarab@gmail.com>

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> I suggested in [1] that the "alice" and "bob" examples in our
> documentation would be better written without a reference to such
> fictional characters, for reasons that have nothing to do with trying
> to bend over backwards to avoid any reference to people's gender. It
> just makes for better documentation.

  no, it doesn't ... and wikipedia explains it nicely:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob

"In cryptography, Alice and Bob are fictional characters commonly used
as placeholders in discussions about cryptographic protocols or
systems, and in other science and engineering literature where there
are several participants in a thought experiment. The Alice and Bob
characters were invented by Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir, and Leonard
Adleman in their 1978 paper "A Method for Obtaining Digital Signatures
and Public-key Cryptosystems".[1] Subsequently, they have become
common archetypes in many scientific and engineering fields, such as
quantum cryptography, game theory and physics.[2] As the use of Alice
and Bob became more widespread, additional characters were added,
sometimes each with a particular meaning. These characters do not have
to refer to humans; they refer to generic agents which might be
different computers or even different programs running on a single
computer."

  if you want to make the docs better, have at it, but please don't do
something as meaningless as replacing "bob" and "alice" because you're
feeling politically correct, or woke, or whatever the hell the kids
call it these days.

  jesus ...

rday

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 16:17 [PATCH 0/6] doc: replace "alice" and "bob" examples Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/6] gittutorial doc: replace "alice" and "bob" with "you" and "www-data" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-16  3:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-06-16  4:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-16 21:04     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-17 20:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:17 ` [PATCH 2/6] gitcvs-migration " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-16  4:02   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-06-15 16:18 ` [PATCH 3/6] daemon doc + code comments: reword "alice" example Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:18 ` [PATCH 4/6] fast-import doc: change "bob" in an example to "file.txt" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:18 ` [PATCH 5/6] doc: replace "alice" and "bob" with "jdoe" and "msmith" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:18 ` [PATCH 6/6] pack-protocol doc: use "www-data" in place of "alice" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:46 ` Robert P. J. Day [this message]
2021-06-15 18:45   ` [PATCH 0/6] doc: replace "alice" and "bob" examples Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15 16:54 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-15 19:09   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-16 20:56     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-17 15:48       ` Phillip Susi
2021-06-17 20:51         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-16  1:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-16  9:30   ` Robert P. J. Day
2021-06-16 12:00     ` Jeff King
2021-06-16 20:59   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-16 21:02     ` Randall S. Becker

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