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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: lenb@kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	Eliezer Tamir <eliezer.tamir@linux.intel.com>,
	Chris Leech <christopher.leech@intel.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rui.zhang@intel.com, jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com,
	Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	hpa@zytor.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] idle, thermal, acpi: Remove home grown idle implementations
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:59:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131120165921.GT16796@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <528CE611.8040903@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:40:49AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 8:04 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >This does not fully preseve existing behaviour in that the generic
> >idle cycle function calls into the normal cpuidle governed idle
> >routines and should thus respect things like QoS parameters and the
> >like.
> 
> 
> NAK on the powerclamp side.
> 
> powerclamp MUST NOT do that....
> it is needed to go to the deepest state no matter what
> (this is for when your system is overheating. there is not a lot of choice
> here... alternative is an emergency reset that the hardware does for safety)

Then its a worse broken piece of shit than I thought it was.

The only way to do what you want is to pretty much do stop_machine().

There's no guarantee your current FIFO-50 tasks will ever get to run.

Also, since when does Intel hardware do emergency resets on thermal
events? It used to force throttle stuff.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-20 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-20 16:04 [PATCH 0/7] Cure some vaux idle wrackage Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86, acpi, idle: Restructure the mwait idle routines Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched, preempt: Fixup missed PREEMPT_NEED_RESCHED folding Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 3/7] idle, thermal, acpi: Remove home grown idle implementations Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:40   ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-20 16:59     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-11-20 17:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-20 17:23       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-20 17:55         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-20 18:21           ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-20 19:38             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-20 22:08               ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-21  0:54   ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-21  8:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 16:07       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 16:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-21 19:19           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 19:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-21 20:07               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22  0:10                 ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-22  4:20                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 11:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 17:17                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 16:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 17:27           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 4/7] preempt, locking: Rework local_bh_{dis,en}able() Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 5/7] locking: Optimize lock_bh functions Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched: Clean up preempt_enable_no_resched() abuse Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 18:02   ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-11-20 18:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 20:14       ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-11-21 10:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 13:26       ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-11-21 13:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22  6:56           ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-11-22 11:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-26  7:15               ` Eliezer Tamir
2013-11-26 10:51                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-20 16:04 ` [PATCH 7/7] preempt: Take away preempt_enable_no_resched() from modules Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 18:54   ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-20 19:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 19:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 19:29       ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 0/7] Cure some vaux idle wrackage Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-20 17:19   ` Jacob Pan
2013-11-20 17:24     ` Peter Zijlstra

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