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From: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	libtirpc List <libtirpc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rpcbind] src: include cdefs.h for the __P() macro
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:55:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160815145538.GF5822@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5769F8D5-D7F9-4528-BC5C-B1EF921F52CD@oracle.com>

Chuck, All,

On 2016-08-15 10:23 -0400, Chuck Lever spake thusly:
> > On Aug 14, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> wrote:
> > On 2016-08-14 14:30 -0400, Chuck Lever spake thusly:
> >>> On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> The __P() macro is defined in cdefs.h, so we must include it explicitly
> >>> rather than relying on it being included by another header.
> >>> 
> >>> cdefs.h is a glibc-ism; glibc includes it almost everywhere from its own
> >>> headers. So it automatically gets included for glibc.
> >>> 
> >>> However, cdefs.h is not present in musl, so its headers do not include
> >>> it. We must thus include it when we need __P() (of course, one will have
> >>> to provide his own cdefs.h in this case).
> >> 
> >> Simply adding "#include <sys/cdefs.h>" seems like the wrong approach.
> >> If cdefs.h is not guaranteed to exist, the appropriate thing to do
> >> is provide some autoconf machinery to define __P() in its absence.
> > 
> > OpenEmbedded provides comaptibility headers:
> >    http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/bsd-headers/bsd-headers
> > 
> > In Buildroot, we're adding them too (not yet applied, WIP):
> >    http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2016-August/169722.html
> > 
> > Other embedded buildsystem may each have their own fix in a way or
> > another...
> > 
> > Mainstream distros are more-or-less all based on glibc, except for a few
> > outliers, like Alpine Linux (also based on musl), and they've gone on
> > the "remove __P()" route:
> >    http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/rpcbind/0001-Avoid-use-of-glibc-sys-cdefs.h-header.patch
> > 
> >> On the other hand, I wonder if we need to continue to preserve K&R C
> >> compatibility in this code base. Perhaps instead the uses of __P()
> >> should be eliminated?
> > 
> > I tried to provide a minimalist approach, that consists in assuming that
> > cdefs.h is present.
> 
> If cdefs.h presence cannot be guaranteed (and I think you've adequately
> demonstrated that no guarantee exists), at the very least there needs
> to be some autoconf logic to handle the "cdefs.h is not present" case.
> IMO a strictly minimalist approach won't work here.
> 
> > But I do agree that pre-ANSI compatibility is probably a little tiny
> > wee bit excessive nowadays. Virtually all current compilers do accept
> > function prototypes, nowadays...
> > 
> > I can work on a patch that does just get rid of the use of __P(). (we
> > can't really vampirise the patch from Alpine, as there's no SoB or such
> > origin information on it; not that redoing the patch would be too
> > difficult either...).
> > 
> > So, what route, now? ;-)
> 
> My preference as a reviewer and individual contributor:
> 
> Barring any further comments here, provide two different approaches:
> 
> 1. add autoconf logic to detect when sys/cdefs.h is not available,
> and provide a substitute __P() macro. That might be as simple as
> defining __P in a local auto.m4 script when it is not provided by
> system headers.
> 
> 2. remove invocations of the __P() macro from the rpcbind source
> 
> Post both to the mailing lists and folks here can decide which is
> better.
> 
> You might not have time for all that ;-) so you could pick one and
> add a strong technical argument in the patch description why that
> is the best choice.
> 
> I think I like 2. overall as it should leave the rpcbind source
> code a little easier to read, no new autoconf logic is needed, and
> there appears to be one distro that is already going that way.

Indeed, I don't have time for both. I'm going for 2. as described above,
because it is what technically makes sense: keeping this legacy pre-ANSI
support is useless, and adding even more compatibility checks for it is
even more useless (IMHO).

I'll wait a bit for more comments before working on a patch...

> Maybe there's someone with the Alpine distro that can provide an
> SoB for their patch?

I won't say it's impossible, but already tried for other cases and...
Nope... :-/

Thanks for the feedback! :-)

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-15 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-13 14:05 [PATCH rpcbind] src: include cdefs.h for the __P() macro Yann E. MORIN
2016-08-14 18:30 ` Chuck Lever
2016-08-14 22:13   ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-08-15 14:23     ` Chuck Lever
2016-08-15 14:55       ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2016-08-15 15:16       ` [Libtirpc-devel] " Steve Dickson
2016-08-15 15:48         ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-08-15 16:30           ` Steve Dickson
2016-08-15 17:41             ` Yann E. MORIN
2016-08-15 19:38               ` Mike Frysinger

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