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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Cao jin <caoj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>, <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio/pci: Support error recovery
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 08:30:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161204083047.7e715b09@t450s.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5844092A.30204@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 20:16:42 +0800
Cao jin <caoj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> On 12/01/2016 10:55 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 21:40:00 +0800  
> 
> >>> If an AER fault occurs and the user doesn't do a reset, what
> >>> happens when that device is released and a host driver tries to make
> >>> use of it?  The user makes no commitment to do a reset and there are
> >>> only limited configurations where we even allow the user to perform a
> >>> reset.
> >>>     
> >>
> >> Limited? Do you mean the things __pci_dev_reset() can do?  
> > 
> > I mean that there are significant device and guest configuration
> > restrictions in order to support AER.  For instance, all the functions
> > of the slot need to appear in a PCI-e topology in the guest with all
> > the functions in the right place such that a guest bus reset translates
> > into a host bus reset.  The physical functions cannot be split between
> > guests even if IOMMU isolation would otherwise allow it.  The user
> > needs to explicitly enable AER support for the devices.  A VM need to
> > be specifically configured for AER support in order to set any sort of
> > expectations of a guest directed bus reset, let alone a guarantee that
> > it will happen.  So all the existing VMs, where functions are split
> > between guests, or the topology isn't exactly right, or AER isn't
> > enabled see a regression from the above change as the device is no
> > longer reset.
> >   
> 
> I am not clear why set these restrictions in the current design. I take
> a glance at older versions of qemu's patchset, their thoughts is:
> translate a guest bus reset into a host bus reset(Which is
> unreasonable[*] to me). And I guess, that's the *cause* of these
> restrictions?  Is there any other stories behind these restrictions?
> 
> [*] In physical world, set bridge's secondary bus reset would send
> hot-reset TLP to all functions below, trigger every device's reset
> separately. Emulated device should behave the same, means just using
> each device's DeviceClass->reset method.

Are you trying to say that an FLR is equivalent to a link reset?
Please go read the previous discussions, especially if you're sending
patches you don't believe in.  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-04 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-27 11:34 [PATCH] vfio/pci: Support error recovery Cao jin
2016-11-28  3:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-28  9:32   ` Cao jin
2016-11-30  1:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-01 13:38       ` Cao jin
2016-12-01  4:04 ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-01  4:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-01 13:40     ` Cao jin
2016-12-06  3:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-06  6:47         ` Cao jin
2016-12-01 13:40   ` Cao jin
2016-12-01 14:55     ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-04 12:16       ` Cao jin
2016-12-04 15:30         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2016-12-05  5:52           ` Cao jin
2016-12-05 16:17             ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-06  3:55               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-06  4:59                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-06 10:46                   ` Cao jin
2016-12-06 15:35                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-07  2:49                       ` Cao jin
2016-12-08 14:46                       ` Cao jin
2016-12-08 16:30                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-09  3:40                           ` Cao jin
2016-12-09  3:40                         ` Cao jin
2016-12-06  6:11               ` Cao jin
2016-12-06 15:25                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-07  2:58                   ` Cao jin
2016-12-12 13:49 ` Cao jin
2016-12-12 19:12   ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-12 22:29     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-12 22:43       ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-13  3:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-13  3:39           ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-13 16:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-13 16:27               ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-14  1:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-14  3:00                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-14 22:20                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-14 22:47                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-14 23:00                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-14 23:32                           ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-14 10:24     ` Cao jin
2016-12-14 22:16       ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-14 22:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-14 22:49           ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-15 13:56         ` Cao jin
2016-12-15 14:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-15 22:01             ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-16 10:15               ` Cao jin
2016-12-16 10:15             ` Cao jin
2016-12-15 17:02           ` Alex Williamson

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