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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Cc: keescook@chromium.org, arnd@arndb.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, h.peter.anvin@intel.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	will.deacon@arm.com, dwindsor@gmail.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, ishkamiel@gmail.com,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 06/19] Provide refcount_t, an atomic_t like primitive built just for refcounting.
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:06:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161230010627.GA9882@zzz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1482994571-18687-7-git-send-email-elena.reshetova@intel.com>

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 08:55:58AM +0200, Elena Reshetova wrote:
> +
> +static inline __must_check
> +bool refcount_add_not_zero(unsigned int i, refcount_t *r)
> +{
> +       unsigned int old, new, val = atomic_read(&r->refs);
> +
> +       for (;;) {
> +               if (!val)
> +                       return false;
> +
> +               if (unlikely(val == UINT_MAX))
> +                       return true;
> +
> +               new = val + i;
> +               if (new < val)
> +                       new = UINT_MAX;
> +               old = atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(&r->refs, val, new);
> +               if (old == val)
> +                       break;
> +
> +               val = old;
> +       }
> +
> +       WARN(new == UINT_MAX, "refcount_t: saturated; leaking memory.\n");
> +
> +       return true;
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * Similar to atomic_inc_not_zero(), will saturate at UINT_MAX and WARN.
> + *
> + * Provides no memory ordering, it is assumed the caller has guaranteed the
> + * object memory to be stable (RCU, etc.). It does provide a control dependency
> + * and thereby orders future stores. See the comment on top.
> + */
> +static inline __must_check
> +bool refcount_inc_not_zero(refcount_t *r)
> +{
> +       return refcount_add_not_zero(1, r);
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * Similar to atomic_inc(), will saturate at UINT_MAX and WARN.
> + *
> + * Provides no memory ordering, it is assumed the caller already has a
> + * reference on the object, will WARN when this is not so.
> + */
> +static inline void refcount_inc(refcount_t *r)
> +{
> +       WARN(!refcount_inc_not_zero(r), "refcount_t: increment on 0; use-after-free.\n");
> +}
> +

... and refcount_inc() compiles to over 100 bytes of instructions on x86_64.
This is the wrong approach.  We need a low-overhead solution, otherwise no one
will turn on refcount protection and the feature will be useless.

What exactly is wrong with the current solution in PAX/grsecurity?  Looking at
the x86 version they have atomic_inc() do 'lock incl' like usual, then use 'jo'
to, if the counter overflowed, jump to *out-of-line* error handling code, in a
separate section of the kernel image.   Then it raises a software interrupt, and
the interrupt handler sets the overflowed counter to INT_MAX and does the needed
logging and signal raising.

That approach seems very efficient.  It seems the only overhead when someone
isn't actually exploiting a refcount bug is the 'jo' instruction, with the
branch not taken.  There aren't even any other in-line instructions to waste
icache space.

I do see they used to use a slightly different approach that did a decrement
instead of setting the counter to INT_MAX.  And that was clearly racy because
two concurrent increments could circumvent the overflow protection.  But AFAICS
their current solution is not racy in any meaningful way, since the setting to
INT_MAX means an overflow will be detected again on the next increment, even if
there were some concurrent increments in the mean time.  (And if by some stretch
of the imagination, it was possible to execute *another* INT_MAX increments
before the fixup code had a chance to run, the correct solution would be to
simply use 'js' instead of 'jo' to detect overflows.  I'm guessing the only
reason they don't do that is because some atomic_t's are used to store negative
values...)

So given that there is an existing solution which AFAICS is efficient and
achieves the desired protection, why has the proposal turned into a monstrous
cmpxchg loop that won't be practical to enable by default?

I also think that the "warn when incrementing a 0 refcount" part of the change
shouldn't be there.  It's additional overhead that seems tangential to the main
goal of the feature which is to protect against refcount overflows, not to
protect against random increments in some object which has *already* been freed
and potentially exploited.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-30  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-29  6:55 [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 00/19] refcount_t API + usage Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 01/19] Since we need to change the implementation, stop exposing internals. Provide kref_read() to read the current reference count; typically used for debug messages Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29 16:41   ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2016-12-29 16:49     ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-30  7:58       ` Greg KH
2016-12-30 12:50         ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 02/19] By general sentiment kref_sub() is a bad interface, make it go away Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 03/19] For some obscure reason apparmor thinks its needs to locally implement kref primitives that already exist. Stop doing this Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 04/19] Because home-rolling your own is _awesome_, stop doing it. Provide kref_put_lock(), just like kref_put_mutex() but for a spinlock Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 05/19] Leak references by unbalanced get, instead of poking at kref implementation details Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 06/19] Provide refcount_t, an atomic_t like primitive built just for refcounting Elena Reshetova
2016-12-30  1:06   ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2016-12-30 13:17     ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-30 19:52       ` Eric Biggers
2017-01-03 13:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-04 20:36       ` Eric Biggers
2017-01-05 10:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-05 21:21       ` PaX Team
2017-01-20 10:35         ` Greg KH
2017-01-20 13:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-29  6:55 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 07/19] mixed: kref fixes Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 08/19] kernel, mm: convert from atomic_t to refcount_t Elena Reshetova
2017-01-05  2:25   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-01-05  9:56     ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-05 19:33       ` Kees Cook
2017-01-10 11:57         ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-10 20:34           ` Kees Cook
2017-01-11  9:30             ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-11 21:42               ` Kees Cook
2017-01-11 22:55                 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-12  2:55                   ` Kees Cook
2017-01-12  8:02                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-12  5:11                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-01-12  8:18                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-12  8:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-16 16:16                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-17 17:15                         ` Kees Cook
2017-01-17 17:44                           ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-17 17:50                             ` David Windsor
2017-01-18  8:41                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-18  9:03                                 ` gregkh
2017-01-18  9:14                                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-17 18:26                             ` gregkh
2017-01-12  7:57                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2017-01-12  7:54                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 09/19] net: " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 10/19] fs: " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 11/19] security: " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 12/19] sound: " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 13/19] ipc: covert " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 14/19] tools: convert " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 15/19] block: " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 16/19] drivers: net " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 17/19] drivers: misc " Elena Reshetova
2016-12-29  6:56 ` [kernel-hardening] [RFC PATCH 18/19] drivers: infiniband " Elena Reshetova

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