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From: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
Cc: "hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 13:40:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170309184009.GD3929@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480EF075-69E6-458D-AA5F-FBE19F68C3C3@netapp.com>

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 12:28:03PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 11:17 AM, hch@infradead.org wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 11:16:01AM -0500, bfields@fieldses.org
> > wrote:
> >> I guess I'm just hung up on the EINVAL vs. short copy behavior.  It
> >> seems more annoying and error-prone to be prepared for both, as
> >> opposed to trying clone and then explicitly falling back to copy if
> >> that doesn't work.  Maybe it's not that big a deal.
> > 
> > We can do short copies^H^H^H^H^Hclones for clone just as easily, at
> > least for local filesystems (NFS would require some tweaks due to
> > the protocol).
> 
> I’m confused by the wording of “we can do … easily” . Is “can” = in
> the future? Currently, testing copy_file_range() on a btfs with
> argument of offset+len beyond the end of the file fail with EINVAL. Is
> NFS tweaking = revert the “MUST” in the spec for the check? 

Checking https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-41
... looks like the CLONE result doesn't even have a length.

Most users are probably cloning the whole file, so I guess it only
matters in the case the file's changing (so that the size returned from
stat might not be correct by the time you do the clone).

Allowing short copies would be one way to handle that--I think it'd work
then to just always request a clone to the maximum length.

Alternatively if the linux interface just had a way to say "clone to end
of file", that'd solve most of the problem and be a nice fit for the
existing NFS protocol (which special-cases length 0 to mean "to end of
file").

Maybe we could special-case the maximum size_t to mean that.  (What is
that, 2^63-1?.)

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02 16:01 [RFC v1 00/19] NFS support for inter and async COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-02 16:34     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 20:47     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-03 21:08       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 21:32         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]           ` <B3F80DA0-B4F8-4628-88C5-E5C047620F17@netapp.com>
2017-03-04  2:10             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 16:27               ` [RFC v1 01/19] " Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-06 19:09                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-07 14:18                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 23:40       ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:05         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 17:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:32             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 19:53               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:00                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:00                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:18                     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:32                     ` bfields
2017-03-08 20:49                       ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:49                         ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-09 15:29                         ` bfields
2017-03-09 15:35                           ` hch
2017-03-09 16:16                             ` bfields
2017-03-09 16:17                               ` hch
2017-03-09 17:28                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:28                                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 18:40                                   ` bfields [this message]
2017-03-09 21:55                                   ` hch
2017-03-09 17:35                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:35                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 02/19] VFS permit cross device vfs_copy_file_range Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 03/19] VFS don't try clone if superblocks are different Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 04/19] NFS inter ssc open Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 05/19] NFS add COPY_NOTIFY operation Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 06/19] NFS add ca_source_server<> to COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 07/19] NFS CB_OFFLOAD xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 08/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 09/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 10/19] NFS OFFLOAD_CANCEL xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 11/19] NFS COPY xdr handle async reply Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 12/19] NFS add support for asynchronous COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 13/19] NFS handle COPY reply CB_OFFLOAD call race Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 14/19] NFS send OFFLOAD_CANCEL when COPY killed Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 15/19] NFS make COPY synchronous xdr configurable Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 16/19] NFS handle COPY ERR_OFFLOAD_NO_REQS Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 17/19] NFS skip recovery of copy open on dest server Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 18/19] NFS recover from destination server reboot for copies Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 19/19] NFS if we got partial copy ignore errors Olga Kornievskaia

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