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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Liang Li <liang.z.li@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Liang Li <liliang324@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 kernel 3/5] virtio-balloon: implementation of VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CHUNK_TRANSFER
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:05:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170312020203-mutt-send-email-mst__988.066339823668$1489277163$gmane$org@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170310212541.GC16328@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 01:25:41PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 09:35:21PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > bit 0 clear => bits 1-11 encode a page count, bits 12-63 encode a PFN, page size 4k.
> > > bit 0 set, bit 1 clear => bits 2-12 encode a page count, bits 13-63 encode a PFN, page size 8k
> > > bits 0+1 set, bit 2 clear => bits 3-13 for page count, bits 14-63 for PFN, page size 16k.
> > > bits 0-2 set, bit 3 clear => bits 4-14 for page count, bits 15-63 for PFN, page size 32k
> > > bits 0-3 set, bit 4 clear => bits 5-15 for page count, bits 16-63 for PFN, page size 64k
> > > That means we can always pass 2048 pages (of whatever page size) in a single chunk.  And
> > > we support arbitrary power of two page sizes.  I suggest something like this:
> > > 
> > > u64 page_to_chunk(struct page *page)
> > > {
> > > 	u64 chunk = page_to_pfn(page) << PAGE_SHIFT;
> > > 	chunk |= (1UL << compound_order(page)) - 1;
> > > }
> > 
> > You need to fill in the size, do you not?
> 
> I think I did ... (1UL << compound_order(page)) - 1 sets the bottom
> N bits.  Bit N+1 will already be clear.  What am I missing?

This sets the order but not the number of pages.
For that you would do something like

	chunk |= size << compound_order(page)

right?

> > > > - host should pass its base page size to guest
> > > >   this can be a separate patch and for now we can fall back on 12 bit if not there
> > > 
> > > With this encoding scheme, I don't think we need to do this?  As long as
> > > it's *at least* 12 bit, then we're fine.
> > 
> > I think we will still need something like this down the road.  The point
> > is that not all hosts are able to use 4k pages in a balloon.
> > So it's pointless for guest to pass 4k pages to such a host,
> > and we need host to tell guest the page size it needs.
> > 
> > However that's a separate feature that can wait until
> > another day.
> 
> Ah, the TRIM/DISCARD debate all over again ... should the guest batch
> up or should the host do that work ... probably easier to account it in
> the guest.  Might be better to frame it as 'balloon chunk size' rather than
> host page size as it might have nothing to do with the host page size.

Exactly.

> > > What per-chunk flags are you thinking would be useful?
> > 
> > Not entirely sure but I think would have been prudent to leave some free
> > if possible. Your encoding seems to use them all up, so be it.
> 
> We don't necessarily have to support 2048 pages in a single chunk.
> If it's worth reserving some bits, we can do that at the expense of
> reducing the maximum number of pages per chunk.

Well we can always change things with a feature bit ..
I'll leave this up to you and Wei.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-12  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-03  5:40 [PATCH v7 kernel 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v7 kernel 1/5] virtio-balloon: rework deflate to add page to a list Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v7 kernel 2/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CHUNK_TRANSFER Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` Wei Wang
2017-03-08  4:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:01     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-09  7:12     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:12       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:12       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:12       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:12     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-08  4:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v7 kernel 3/5] virtio-balloon: implementation of VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CHUNK_TRANSFER Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` Wei Wang
2017-03-08  4:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:01     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 10:02     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-03-10 10:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-10 10:02       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 10:02       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 13:26       ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2017-03-10 13:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2017-03-10 13:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2017-03-10 13:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2017-03-10 15:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 15:37         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 15:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 15:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 10:02     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09 14:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-09 14:14     ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-09 14:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 11:37     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 11:37     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 11:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-10 11:37       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 15:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 15:58         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 15:58         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 17:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 17:11           ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 17:11           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 19:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:10             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 21:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:18               ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:18               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 19:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:35             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 19:35             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-10 21:25             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:25             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:25               ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 21:25               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-12  0:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:05                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:05                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-03-11 11:59           ` Wei Wang
2017-03-11 11:59             ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-11 11:59             ` Wei Wang
2017-03-11 14:09             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-11 14:09             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-11 14:09               ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-11 14:09               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-12  1:59               ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  1:59               ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  1:59                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  1:59                 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  1:59                 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  4:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  4:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  4:04                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  4:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  4:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-13 12:41                   ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-13 12:41                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Wang, Wei W
2017-03-13 12:41                     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-13 12:41                     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-03-12  0:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:07               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-12  0:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-11 11:59           ` Wei Wang
2017-03-10 17:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-10 15:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-09 14:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v7 kernel 4/5] virtio-balloon: define flags and head for host request vq Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` Wei Wang
2017-03-08  4:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  4:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v7 kernel 5/5] This patch contains two parts: Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-03  5:40   ` Wei Wang
2017-03-06 13:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-03-06 13:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2017-03-06 13:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2017-03-09  7:04     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:04     ` Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:04       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-03-09  7:04       ` Wei Wang
2017-03-06 13:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-03-03  5:40 ` Wei Wang

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