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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] xfs: fix buffer check for primary sb in userspace libxfs
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 07:52:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170720115159.GB3944@bfoster.bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170720024855.GS17762@dastard>

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:48:55PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 07:17:41AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 09:12:02AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:13:37AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > This patch is actually targeted at userspace. The previous change in commit
> > > > f3d7ebde ("xfs: fix superblock inprogress check") to use ->b_maps technically
> > > > breaks the logic in userspace in a similar way to the original problem because
> > > > userspace has no concept of uncached buffers.  ->b_maps is NULL in userspace
> > > > unless the buffer is truly discontiguous.
> > > > 
> > > > This would normally result in a segfault but this appears to be hidden
> > > > by gcc optimization as -O2 is enabled by default and the
> > > > check_inprogress param to xfs_mount_validate_sb() is unused in
> > > > userspace. Therefore, the segfault is only reproducible when
> > > > optimization is disabled (which is a useful configuration for
> > > > debugging).
> > > > 
> > > > There are obviously different ways to fix this. I'm floating this (untested)
> > > > rfc as a kernel patch (do we ever sync libxfs from xfsprogs -> kernel?) with
> > > > the objective of keeping the libxfs code the same between the kernel and
> > > > userspace. We could alternatively create a custom helper/macro with the
> > > > appropriate check in each place. Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't it be better to simply fix the userspace buffer
> > > initialisation to always have a valid bp->b_maps, just like the
> > > kernel does? (See xfs_buf_get_maps() in the kernel code).  That way
> > > we don't have a landmine lurking in all the shared libxfs code we
> > > bring from the kernel that may interact with uncached buffers.
> > > 
> > 
> > We could certainly create a bp->__b_map field in xfsprogs libxfs and
> > initialize ->b_maps similar to the kernel for nmap == 1 buffers. Given
> > the lack of overlap of uncached buffers between xfsprogs and the kernel
> > (I'm not sure there are other cases where such buffers are commonly
> > handled), I don't personally think one way is notably better than the
> > other.
> > 
> > The tradeoffs seem to be that this patch is fairly localized but leaves
> > the potentially different states for uncached buffers in kernel vs.
> > xfsprogs context. The above approach addresses that issue at the cost of
> > slightly increasing the size of xfs_buf in userspace for something that
> > may not ever be necessary outside of an isolated bit of code. It also
> > only requires a change to xfsprogs libxfs.
> > 
> > Given the tradeoffs, I have no real preference on which approach we
> > take. Do you prefer the latter? If so and there are no other objections,
> > I'll send a patch along those lines.
> 
> I'd prefer the latter (the bp->__b_map solution) simply so we don't
> have to worry about it in future. The closer the kernel and
> userspace buffer caches are in terms of behaviour, implementation
> and structure members the less likely we are to have problems
> related to the kernel using uncached buffers...
> 
> FWIW, my wish list contains porting the kernel side buffer cache
> implementation to userspace to solve the scalabilty problems in the
> current userspace implementation that are exposed when repair
> hammers multiple AGs at once. Hence anything that gets kernel +
> userspace closer together helps get us (minutely) closer to that
> goal....
> 

Sounds reasonable to me. I'll post the xfsprogs __b_map patch I cooked
up and started testing yesterday a bit later...

Brian

> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-20 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-18 14:13 [PATCH RFC] xfs: fix buffer check for primary sb in userspace libxfs Brian Foster
2017-07-18 18:10 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-07-18 18:23   ` Brian Foster
2017-07-18 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2017-07-19 11:17   ` Brian Foster
2017-07-20  2:48     ` Dave Chinner
2017-07-20 11:52       ` Brian Foster [this message]
2017-08-16  6:22         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-16 10:31           ` Brian Foster
2017-08-16 15:22             ` Darrick J. Wong

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