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From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vfs: introduce UMOUNT_WAIT which waits for umount completion
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:16:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921171644.GA3813@jaegeuk-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170921144809.wv6546fqtentm7vv@thunk.org>

On 09/21, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:02:37PM -0700, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, and actually, android retries umount(2) for several seconds, if it gets
> > failure. So, first I thought it'd be better to make umount() more deterministic.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how many times we can retry and wait for this. IMHO, it'd be better
> > to use this together with the new flag, since this can detect unclosed namespace
> > given successful umount(2).
> 
> Even if you could make umount wait for the binder deferred workqueue
> to exit, if it takes time, it takes time.  And that's not the core
> VFS's fault.  It's binder's.
> 
> So... why not fix this by adding a binder ioctl which forces its
> workqueue to be flushed, and use that *before* you try calling mount?

Yes, we can, but I'm not 100% sure this happens only by binder. This is caused
by delayed_fput/mntput called by any kernel thread which would be much generic.

> If that binder ioctl takes minutes or hours to complete, then that's a
> binder bug, and needs to be fixed in binder.
> 
>        	    	      	    	  - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-21 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 20:09 [PATCH] vfs: introduce UMOUNT_WAIT which waits for umount completion Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-13 23:04 ` Al Viro
2017-09-13 23:31   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-13 23:44     ` Al Viro
2017-09-14  1:10       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-14  1:10         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-14  1:30         ` Al Viro
2017-09-14 18:37           ` Al Viro
2017-09-14 19:14             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-15  0:19               ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-15  2:06                 ` Al Viro
2017-09-15  2:06                   ` Al Viro
2017-09-15  3:45                   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-15  4:21                     ` Al Viro
2017-09-15 18:44                       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-15 22:12                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-15 22:12                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-15 23:29                           ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-15 23:43                             ` Al Viro
2017-09-19 15:55                               ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-16  7:11                           ` Amir Goldstein
2017-09-16  7:11                             ` Amir Goldstein
2017-09-20 17:38 ` [PATCH v2] " Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-20 18:38   ` Al Viro
2017-09-21  0:34     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-21  2:42       ` Al Viro
2017-09-21  5:02         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2017-09-21 14:48           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-21 17:16             ` Jaegeuk Kim [this message]
2017-09-21 18:20   ` [PATCH v3] vfs: introduce UMOUNT_WAIT to wait for delayed_fput/mntput completion Jaegeuk Kim

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