From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bart.vanassche@wdc.com, tytso@mit.edu,
darrick.wong@oracle.com, jikos@kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
pavel@ucw.cz, len.brown@intel.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, jgross@suse.com,
todd.e.brandt@linux.intel.com, nborisov@suse.com, jack@suse.cz,
martin.petersen@oracle.com, ONeukum@suse.com,
oleksandr@natalenko.name, oleg.b.antonyan@gmail.com,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] fs: replace kthread freezing with filesystem freeze/thaw
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 22:54:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171003205459.GI2294@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003204755.GB8848@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 01:47:55PM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 03:33:01AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > Even though this patch can make kthread to not do I/O during
> > > suspend/resume, the SCSI quiesce still can cause similar issue
> > > in other case, like when sending SCSI domain validation
> > > to transport_spi, which happens in revalidate path, nothing
> > > to do with suspend/resume.
> >
> > Are you saying that the SCSI layer can generate IO even without the filesystem
> > triggering it?
>
> The SCSI layer can send SCSI commands; they aren't I/Os in the sense that
> they do reads and writes to media,
Then there should be no issue waiting for the device to respond?
> but they are block requests. Maybe those should be allowed even to frozen
> devices?
I'm afraid *maybe* won't suffice here, we need a clear explanation as
to what happens with frozen devices on the block layer *if* the device
driver is already suspended. Does the block layer just queue these?
If the goal is to just get queued but not processed, then why even
send these quiesce commands? Wouldn't they only be processed *after*
resume?
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-03 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-03 18:53 [RFC 0/5] fs: replace kthread freezing with filesystem freeze/thaw Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 1/5] fs: add iterate_supers_reverse() Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 2/5] fs: freeze on suspend and thaw on resume Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:58 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 21:16 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 3/5] xfs: allow fs freeze on suspend/hibernation Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 4/5] ext4: add fs freezing support " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 19:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 20:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 1:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-04 7:05 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 16:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-04 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 18:53 ` [RFC 5/5] pm: remove kernel thread freezing Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 18:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-03 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-04 0:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 1:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 1:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 1:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-29 23:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 7:18 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 20:12 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 20:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 20:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-03 20:57 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-03 21:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 21:09 ` Shuah Khan
2017-10-03 21:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-06 12:07 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-06 12:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 20:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:27 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:27 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 20:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-10-03 21:04 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-03 21:07 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04 6:07 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-03 19:33 ` [RFC 0/5] fs: replace kthread freezing with filesystem freeze/thaw Ming Lei
2017-10-03 20:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-03 20:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-03 20:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-10-03 20:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-03 20:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-04 15:43 ` Ming Lei
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