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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, glauber@scylladb.com,
	syzkaller@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm,vmscan: Make unregister_shrinker() no-op if register_shrinker() failed.
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:55:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171129135500.3gak5kmtf4ho5ckj@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201711292244.BHF26553.MOFQFtVJHOOFSL@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 29-11-17 22:44:45, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Sat 25-11-17 10:40:13, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Fri 24-11-17 22:21:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > > Since we can encourage register_shrinker() callers to check for failure
> > > > > > > by marking register_shrinker() as __must_check, unregister_shrinker()
> > > > > > > can stay silent.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am not sure __must_check is the right way. We already do get
> > > > > > allocation warning if the registration fails so silent unregister is
> > > > > > acceptable. Unchecked register_shrinker is a bug like any other
> > > > > > unchecked error path.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I consider that __must_check is the simplest way to find all of
> > > > > unchecked register_shrinker bugs. Why not to encourage users to fix?
> > > > 
> > > > because git grep doesn't require to patch the kernel and still provide
> > > > the information you want.
> > > 
> > > I can't interpret this line. How git grep relevant?
> > 
> > you do not have to compile to see who is checking the return value.
> > Seriously there is no need to overcomplicate this. Newly added shrinkers
> > know the function returns might fail so we just have to handle existing
> > users and there are not all that many of those.
> 
> Newly added shrinker users are not always careful. See commit f2517eb76f1f2f7f
> ("android: binder: Add global lru shrinker to binder") for example.
> Unless we send __must_check change to linux.git, people won't notice it.

Crap code doesn't really warrant special handling. This is a failure of
reviewers...

Really, if we start abusing __must_check for non-fatal paths then it
will turn into an ignored class of warnings or find workarounds to
silent false positives.

Look, I will not lose more time discussing this borderline thing with
you even though obviously consider this the number one problem. But you
should really think more from a wider perspective rather than
obsessively focus into a unlikely corner case and beat the soul out of
it.

I really do appreciate you started fixing the remaining places of
course, that is the usual way to deal with these issues. But placing
__must_check around is just pointless. If Andrew thinks this is really
worth it, I will not object...
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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      reply	other threads:[~2017-11-29 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-24 11:36 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm,vmscan: Make unregister_shrinker() no-op if register_shrinker() failed Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-24 11:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm,vmscan: Mark register_shrinker() as __must_check Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-24 12:24   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-24 13:26     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-24 13:37       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-24 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm,vmscan: Make unregister_shrinker() no-op if register_shrinker() failed Michal Hocko
2017-11-24 13:21   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-24 13:28     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-25  1:40       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-27  8:29         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 13:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-29 13:55             ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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