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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>
Cc: "dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"axboe@fb.com" <axboe@fb.com>,
	"ming.lei@redhat.com" <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 0/5]  dm-rq: improve sequential I/O performance
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:29:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180112192918.GA5712@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1515783288.2396.37.camel@wdc.com>

On Fri, Jan 12 2018 at  1:54pm -0500,
Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:06 -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > OK, you have the stage: please give me a pointer to your best
> > explaination of the several.
> 
> Since the previous discussion about this topic occurred more than a month
> ago it could take more time to look up an explanation than to explain it
> again. Anyway, here we go. As you know a block layer request queue needs to
> be rerun if one or more requests are waiting and a previous condition that
> prevented the request to be executed has been cleared. For the dm-mpath
> driver, examples of such conditions are no tags available, a path that is
> busy (see also pgpath_busy()), path initialization that is in progress
> (pg_init_in_progress) or a request completes with status, e.g. if the
> SCSI core calls __blk_mq_end_request(req, error) with error != 0. For some
> of these conditions, e.g. path initialization completes, a callback
> function in the dm-mpath driver is called and it is possible to explicitly
> rerun the queue. I agree that for such scenario's a delayed queue run should
> not be triggered. For other scenario's, e.g. if a SCSI initiator submits a
> SCSI request over a fabric and the SCSI target replies with "BUSY" then the
> SCSI core will end the I/O request with status BLK_STS_RESOURCE after the
> maximum number of retries has been reached (see also scsi_io_completion()).
> In that last case, if a SCSI target sends a "BUSY" reply over the wire back
> to the initiator, there is no other approach for the SCSI initiator to
> figure out whether it can queue another request than to resubmit the
> request. The worst possible strategy is to resubmit a request immediately
> because that will cause a significant fraction of the fabric bandwidth to
> be used just for replying "BUSY" to requests that can't be processed
> immediately.
> 
> The intention of commit 6077c2d706097c0 was to address the last mentioned
> case. It may be possible to move the delayed queue rerun from the
> dm_queue_rq() into dm_requeue_original_request(). But I think it would be
> wrong to rerun the queue immediately in case a SCSI target system returns
> "BUSY".

OK, thank you very much for this.  Really helps.

For starters multipath_clone_and_map() could do a fair amount more with
the insight that a SCSI "BUSY" was transmitted back.  If both blk-mq
being out of tags and SCSI "BUSY" simply return BLK_STS_RESOURCE then
dm-mpath doesn't have the ability to behave more intelligently.

Anyway, armed with this info I'll have a think about what we might do to
tackle this problem head on.

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11  6:01 [PATCH V3 0/5] dm-rq: improve sequential I/O performance Ming Lei
2018-01-11  6:01 ` [PATCH V3 1/5] dm-mpath: don't call blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue() in case of BLK_STS_RESOURCE Ming Lei
2018-01-11  6:01 ` [PATCH V3 2/5] dm-mpath: return DM_MAPIO_REQUEUE in case of rq allocation failure Ming Lei
2018-01-12 19:04   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 19:04     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-13  1:29     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-11  6:01 ` [PATCH V3 3/5] blk-mq: move actual issue into one helper Ming Lei
2018-01-11 22:09   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-11  6:01 ` [PATCH V3 4/5] blk-mq: return dispatch result to caller in blk_mq_try_issue_directly Ming Lei
2018-01-11 22:10   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-11  6:01 ` [PATCH V3 5/5] blk-mq: issue request directly for blk_insert_cloned_request Ming Lei
2018-01-11 22:42   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH V3 0/5] dm-rq: improve sequential I/O performance Mike Snitzer
2018-01-11 22:37   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-11 22:37     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-11 22:58     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-11 23:27       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-11 23:27         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12  1:43         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12  1:42     ` Ming Lei
2018-01-12  1:57       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12  3:33         ` Ming Lei
2018-01-12 17:18           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 17:26             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 17:26               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 17:40               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 17:46                 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 17:46                   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 18:06                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 18:54                     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 18:54                       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 19:29                       ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2018-01-12 19:53                       ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2018-01-12 19:53                         ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2018-01-13  0:52                         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-13  1:00                           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-13  1:00                             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-13  1:37                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-13 15:14                               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 22:31                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-13 15:04                         ` Ming Lei
2018-01-13 15:04                           ` Ming Lei
2018-01-13 15:10                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 23:17                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-12 23:42                         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-12 23:42                           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-13  0:45                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-13 14:34                       ` Ming Lei

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