All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	yuankuiz@codeaurora.org, Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkpatch: Add a --strict test for structs with bool member definitions
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:29:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180411092959.e666ec443e4d3bb6f43901d7@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180411081502.GJ4082@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:15:02 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:00:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:53:51 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 14:39 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:19:54 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > A struct with a bool member can have different sizes on various
> > > > > architectures because neither bool size nor alignment is standardized.
> > > > 
> > > > What's wrong with bools in structs?
> > > 
> > > See above.
> > 
> > Yeah, but so what?  `long' has different sizes on different
> > architectures too.
> 
> Right, so we have ILP32/LP64 for all our 32/64 bit archs respectively.
> So only 2 possible variations to consider, and if you know your bitness
> you know your layout.
> 
> (+- some really unfortunate alignment exceptions, the worst of which
> Arnd recently removed, hooray!)
> 
> But neither says anything about sizeof(_Bool), and the standard leaves
> it undefined and only mandates it is large enough to store either 0 or
> 1 (and I suspect this vagueness is because there are architectures that
> either have no byte addressibility or it's more expensive than word
> addressibility).
> 
> Typically GCC chooses a single byte to represent _Bool, but there are no
> guarantees. This means that when you care about structure layout (as we
> all really should) things go wobbly when you use _Bool.
> 
> If GCC were to guarantee a 1 byte _Bool for all Linux ABIs we could
> reconsider.

OK.  I guess.  But I'm not really seeing some snappy description which
helps people understand why checkpatch is warning about this.  We
already have some 500 bools-in-structs and the owners of that code will
be wondering whether they should change them, and whether they should
apply those remove-bool-in-struct patches which someone sent them.

So... can we please get some clarity here?

...

(ooh, https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/21/384 is working this morning)

hm, Linus suggests that instead of using

	bool mybool;

we should use

	unsigned mybool:1;

However that introduces the risk that alterations of mybool will use
nonatomic rmw operations.

	unsigned myboolA:1;
	unsigned myboolB:1;

so

	foo->myboolA = 1;

could scribble on concurrent alterations of foo->myboolB.  I think.

I guess that risk is also present if myboolA and myboolB were `bool',
too.  The compiler could do any old thing with them including, perhaps,
using a single-bit bitfield(?).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-11 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10  7:33 Subject: [PATCH] [PATCH] time: tick-sched: use bool for tick_stopped yuankuiz
2018-04-10  7:45 ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:51   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:54     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  7:55 ` Subject: [PATCH] " Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10  8:12   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10  8:15   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  9:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 10:07       ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 11:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 14:08           ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 14:49             ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 23:09               ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 23:20                 ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  1:47                   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  6:44                     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20 19:24                       ` Joe Perches
2018-04-25  7:01                         ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 11:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 12:07           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 12:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 12:33   ` Subject: [PATCH] " Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 15:14     ` Joe Perches
2018-04-10 16:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 15:41     ` [PATCH] checkpatch: whinge about bool bitfields Joe Perches
2018-04-10 18:19       ` [PATCH] checkpatch: Add a --strict test for structs with bool member definitions Joe Perches
2018-04-10 21:39         ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-10 21:53           ` Joe Perches
2018-04-10 22:00             ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-11  8:15               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-11 16:29                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-04-11 16:51                   ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12  6:22                     ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-12  6:42                       ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12  7:03                         ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-12  8:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-14 21:19                         ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-17  9:07                           ` yuankuiz
2018-04-18 18:38                             ` Joe Perches
2018-04-19  4:40                               ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-19  4:51                                 ` Joe Perches
2018-04-19  5:16                                   ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-19  6:48                                     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-19 10:42                                       ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  1:31                                         ` yuankuiz
2018-04-11 17:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12  7:47                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-04-12  8:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12  9:35                       ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-12 11:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12 12:01                           ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12 12:08                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12 12:38                               ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12 16:47                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-12 11:52                         ` Kalle Valo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20180411092959.e666ec443e4d3bb6f43901d7@linux-foundation.org \
    --to=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=apw@canonical.com \
    --cc=fweisbec@gmail.com \
    --cc=joe@perches.com \
    --cc=len.brown@intel.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-pm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@kernel.org \
    --cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=rjw@rjwysocki.net \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=yuankuiz@codeaurora.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.