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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] commit-graph write: add progress output
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 13:15:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907171548.GA11708@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efe5qqks.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 05:23:31PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> Hrm, no. I spoke too soon because I was conflating "commit-graph write"
> v.s. "gc". For "gc" we're now with this change just e.g. spending 6
> seconds on 2015-04-03-1M-git displaying nothing, because we're looping
> through the commits and finding that we have no new work.
> 
> So I'm on the fence about this, but leaning towards just taking my
> initial approch. I.e. it sucks if you're e.g. testing different "git gc"
> options that we're churning in the background doing nothing, just
> because we're trying to report how many *new* things we added to the
> graph.
> 
> After all, the main point IMNSHO is not to show some diagnostic output
> of exactly how much work we're doing, that I have 200 new commits with
> generation numbers or whatever is just useless trivia, but rather to not
> leave the user thinking the command is hanging.

I think there's some precedent for your view of things, too. For
example, "writing objects" counts _all_ of the objects, even though many
of them are just copying bytes straight from disk, and some are actually
generating a delta and/or zlib-deflating content.

So it's not the most precise measurement we could give, but it shows
there's activity, and the "average" movement over many objects tends to
be reasonably smooth.

> So I think I'll just do what I was doing to begin with and change the
> message to "Refreshing commit graph generation numbers" or something to
> indicate that it's a find/verify/compute operation, not just a compute
> operation.

So basically yes, I agree with this. :)

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-04 20:27 [PATCH 0/2] commit-graph: add progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 1/2] commit-graph write: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-04 21:16   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-09-04 22:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-05 11:58     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-05 12:07       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-05 21:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-05 22:12         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-07 15:11       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-07 15:23         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-07 17:15           ` Jeff King [this message]
2018-09-07 17:25             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-05 12:06   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-07 12:40   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-07 13:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph verify: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-04 22:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-05 12:07 ` [PATCH 0/2] commit-graph: " Derrick Stolee
2018-09-07 18:29 ` [PATCH v2 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-11 20:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-07 18:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] commit-graph write: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-21 20:01   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-21 21:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-21 21:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-07 18:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] commit-graph verify: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-16  6:55   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-09-17 15:33     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] commit-graph: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-17 15:33     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] commit-graph write: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-10 20:37       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-10 21:56         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-10 22:19           ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-10 22:37             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-11 17:52               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-15 16:05                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-12  6:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-12 15:07           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-12 15:12             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-15 16:54       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-19 16:02         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-19 20:23           ` [PATCH] commit-graph: split up close_reachable() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-19 20:38             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-19 22:57             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 0/6] commit-graph write: progress output improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 1/6] commit-graph write: rephrase confusing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 2/6] commit-graph write: add more " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 16:58                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] commit-graph write: progress output improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] commit-graph write: rephrase confusing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] commit-graph write: add more " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 23:38                     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] commit-graph write: add more describing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 19:50                   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] commit-graph write: add even more progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-21  1:23                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-21  1:25                     ` [PATCH 1/2] commit-graph: rename 'num_extra_edges' variable to 'num_large_edges' SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-21  3:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21 11:32                         ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-18 17:05                           ` [PATCH v2 0/2] commit-graph: minor cleanup and optimization SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-18 17:05                             ` [PATCH v2 1/2] commit-graph: rename "large edges" to "extra edges" SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-18 17:05                             ` [PATCH v2 2/2] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-19  9:32                               ` Martin Ågren
2019-01-18 19:41                             ` [PATCH v2 0/2] commit-graph: minor cleanup and optimization Junio C Hamano
2018-11-21  1:26                     ` [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-21 11:33                       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 00/10] commit-graph write: progress output improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 01/10] commit-graph: rename 'num_extra_edges' variable to 'num_large_edges' Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 0/9] commit-graph write: progress output improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19  1:26                             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-22 18:30                               ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-23 17:52                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-22 19:37                               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 01/10] commit-graph write: use pack order when finding commits Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 02/10] commit-graph: rename "large edges" to "extra edges" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 03/10] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-23 17:51                               ` [PATCH v6.1 03/10] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_extra_edges() unnecessarily SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 04/10] commit-graph write: add "Writing out" progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 05/10] commit-graph write: more descriptive "writing out" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 06/10] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 07/10] commit-graph write: add more descriptive progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 08/10] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 09/10] commit-graph write: add itermediate progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-19 20:21                             ` [PATCH v6 10/10] commit-graph write: emit a percentage for all progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-22 10:28                               ` [PATCH] commit-graph: don't show progress percentages while expanding reachable commits SZEDER Gábor
2019-03-22 11:11                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-22 11:18                                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-03-22 14:28                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-22 14:36                                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-22 14:55                                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-03-22 15:11                                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-22 15:49                                           ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-03-22 16:52                                             ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-03-22 17:23                                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 1/9] commit-graph: rename 'num_extra_edges' variable to 'num_large_edges' Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 2/9] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 3/9] commit-graph write: add "Writing out" progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-18 17:16                             ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 4/9] commit-graph write: more descriptive "writing out" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 5/9] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 6/9] commit-graph write: add more descriptive progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 7/9] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 8/9] commit-graph write: add itermediate progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-16 13:29                           ` [PATCH v5 9/9] commit-graph write: emit a percentage for all progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-17 13:23                             ` [PATCH] commit-graph write: use pack order when finding commits Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-01-17 15:09                               ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-17 16:35                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 02/10] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 03/10] commit-graph write: rephrase confusing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 04/10] commit-graph write: add "Writing out" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 05/10] commit-graph write: more descriptive "writing out" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 06/10] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 07/10] commit-graph write: add more descriptive progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 08/10] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 09/10] commit-graph write: add itermediate progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 15:39                         ` [PATCH v4 10/10] commit-graph write: emit a percentage for all progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 18:59                         ` [PATCH v3 00/10] commit-graph write: progress output improvements Eric Sunshine
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 01/10] commit-graph: rename 'num_extra_edges' variable to 'num_large_edges' Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 02/10] commit-graph: don't call write_graph_chunk_large_edges() unnecessarily Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 03/10] commit-graph write: rephrase confusing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 04/10] commit-graph write: add "Writing out" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 05/10] commit-graph write: more descriptive "writing out" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 06/10] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 07/10] commit-graph write: add more descriptive progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 08/10] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 09/10] commit-graph write: add itermediate progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-22 13:28                       ` [PATCH v3 10/10] commit-graph write: emit a percentage for all progress Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 3/6] commit-graph write: show progress for object search Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 4/6] commit-graph write: add more describing progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 5/6] commit-graph write: remove empty line for readability Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH 6/6] commit-graph write: add even more progress output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-17 15:33     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] commit-graph verify: add " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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