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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <olga.kornievskaia@gmail.com>
Cc: trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/11] VFS: copy_file_range check validity of input source offset
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:40:19 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181030234019.GP6311@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN-5tyEfYcSvgzhftM7r8YoB7KQDiJnJXQPTE9pcML6BRSbbYA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:40:09AM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:03 AM Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:41:22AM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:27 AM Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 04:10:48PM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > > > From: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Input source offset can't be beyond the end of the file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  fs/read_write.c | 3 +++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/read_write.c b/fs/read_write.c
> > > > > index fb4ffca..b3b304e 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/read_write.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/read_write.c
> > > > > @@ -1594,6 +1594,9 @@ ssize_t vfs_copy_file_range(struct file *file_in, loff_t pos_in,
> > > > >               }
> > > > >       }
> > > > >
> > > > > +     if (pos_in >= i_size_read(inode_in))
> > > > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > vfs_copy_file_range seems ot be missing a wide range of checks.
> > > > rlimit, s_maxbytes, LFS file sizes, etc. This is a write, so all the
> > > > checks in generic_write_checks() apply, right? And the same security
> > > > issues like stripping setuid bits, etc? And we need to touch
> > > > atime on the source file, too?
> > >
> > > Yes sound like needed checks.
> > >
> > > > We've just merged 5 or so patches in 4.19-rc8 and we're ready to
> > > > merge another ~30 patch series to fix all the stuff missing from the
> > > > clone/dedupe file range operations that make them safe and robust.
> > > > It seems like copy_file_range is all the checks it needs, too?
> > >
> > > Are you proposing to not do this check now in favor of the proper work
> > > that will do all of those checks you listed above?
> >
> > No, I'm saying that if you're adding one check, there's a whole heap
> > of checks that still need to be added, *especially* if this is going
> > to fall back to page cache copy between superblocks that may have
> > different limits and constraints.
> >
> > There's security issues in this API. They need to be fixed before we
> > allow it to do more and potentially expose more problems due to it's
> > wider capability.
> 
> Sounds like you are arguing that enabling generic copy_file_range()
> via do_splice() isn't a good thing without those checks.

It's already enabled for filesystems that don't provide
->remap_file_range or ->copy_file_range. Your changes don't
introduce new problems, that just made me aware that there are
serious problems here, too.

The problem we've got now is that filesystem that use
->remap_file_range() are going to have very different error
detection and handling when Darrick's patchset is merged. They are
going to reject setuid files, obey rlimit, LFS, superblock max
sizes, etc. while ->copy_file_range() and do_splice_direct() methods
are not.

That really needs to be fixed.

> I'm totally
> OK with removing this functionality. As I mentioned earlier I added it
> as I thought it was beneficial and I assumed that do_splice() was a
> generic enough API to handle what was needed.

That doesn't fix the problems that are already there. :/

> > > I can not volunteer
> > > to provide this comprehensive check.
> >
> > Why not?
> 
> I don't have the expertise in the VFS code.

Just like all the other people without VFS expertise who fix
problems introduced in code written by people without VFS expertise.
I'm certainly no VFS expert, either, I've just seen, found and
helped fix a bunch of serious problems in the VFS dedupe/reflink
code that were uncovered by data corruptions on XFS filesystems.

That's part of being a filesystem developer - the VFS is "common
property" of all the filesystems and everyone has to do their bit to
maintain it....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-30 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26 20:10 [PATCH v4 00/11] client-side support for "inter" SSC copy Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] VFS: move cross device copy_file_range() check into filesystems Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 21:23   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-26 22:10   ` Steve French
2018-10-27  9:09   ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-29 14:31     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-27 11:11   ` Jeff Layton
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/1] man-page: copy_file_range(2) allow for cross-device copies Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-27  9:12   ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-27 13:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-28  1:33       ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-28  2:39         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-29 14:25         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-29 15:52           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-29 17:49             ` Amir Goldstein
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] VFS: copy_file_range check validity of input source offset Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 21:26   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-29 16:09     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-27  9:27   ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-29 14:41     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-30  9:03       ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-30 13:40         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-30 23:40           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-10-30 21:10         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-30 21:12           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-31  0:14           ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-31  0:14             ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-31 14:51             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-31 23:33               ` Dave Chinner
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] NFS: NFSD defining nl4_servers structure needed by both Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-27 11:14   ` Jeff Layton
2018-10-29 14:28     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] NFS: add COPY_NOTIFY operation Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] NFS: add ca_source_server<> to COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] NFS: also send OFFLOAD_CANCEL to source server Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] NFS: inter ssc open Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] NFS: skip recovery of copy open on dest server Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] NFS: for "inter" copy treat ESTALE as ENOTSUPP Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] NFS: COPY handle ERR_OFFLOAD_DENIED Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] NFS: replace cross device check in copy_file_range Olga Kornievskaia
2018-10-26 21:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-27 11:08   ` Jeff Layton
2018-10-27 13:26     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-10-29 14:28       ` Olga Kornievskaia

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