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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] iomap: move the xfs writeback code to iomap.c
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:43:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190624234304.GD7777@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190624055253.31183-12-hch@lst.de>

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 07:52:52AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Takes the xfs writeback code and move it to iomap.c.  A new structure
> with three methods is added as the abstraction from the generic
> writeback code to the file system.  These methods are used to map
> blocks, submit an ioend, and cancel a page that encountered an error
> before it was added to an ioend.
> 
> Note that we temporarily lose the writepage tracing, but that will
> be added back soon.

I'm a little concerned this is going to limit what we can do
with the XFS IO path because now we can't change this code without
considering the direct impact on other filesystems. The QA burden of
changing the XFS writeback code goes through the roof with this
change (i.e. we can break multiple filesystems, not just XFS).

The writepage code is one of the areas that, historically speaking,
has one of the highest rates of modification in XFS - we've
substantially reworked this code from top to bottom 4 or 5 times in
a bit over ten years, and each time it's been removing abstraction
layers and getting the writeback code closer to the internal XFS
extent mapping infrastructure.

This steps the other way - it adds abstraction to move the XFS code
to be generic, and now we have to be concerned about how changes to
the XFS IO path affects other filesystems. While I can see the
desire to use this code in other filesystems, no other filesystem
does COW or delayed allocation like XFS and this functionality is
tightly tied into the iomap page writeback architecture.

As such, I'm not convinced that a wholesale lifting of this code
into the generic iomap code is going to make our life easier or
better. The stuff we've already got in fs/iomap.c is largely
uncontroversial and straight forward, but this writeback code is
anything but straight forward.....

Another issue this raises is that fs/iomap.c is already huge chunk
of code with lots of different functionality in it. Adding another
500+ lines of new functionality to it doesn't make it any easier to
navigate or find things.

If we are going to move this writeback code to the generic iomap
infrastructure, can we please split the iomap code up in to smaller
files first?  e.g. fs/iomap-dio.c for all the direct IO code,
fs/iomap-pageio.c for all the page-based IO, fs/iomap.c for all the
core functionality (like iomap_apply()) and fs/iomap-util.c for all
the miscellaneous one-off functions like fiemap, etc?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-24 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-24  5:52 lift the xfs writepage code into iomap Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 01/12] list.h: add a list_pop helper Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 14:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24 15:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-25 10:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 02/12] xfs: simplify xfs_chain_bio Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 15:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 03/12] xfs: fix a comment typo in xfs_submit_ioend Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 14:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 04/12] xfs: initialize ioma->flags in xfs_bmbt_to_iomap Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 14:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-25 10:07     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 15:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-25 15:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 05/12] xfs: use a struct iomap in xfs_writepage_ctx Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 15:50   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 06/12] xfs: remove XFS_TRANS_NOFS Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 15:58   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24 22:59   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-25 10:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 07/12] xfs: don't preallocate a transaction for file size updates Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:17   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24 23:15     ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-25 10:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-27 22:23         ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 08/12] xfs: simplify xfs_ioend_can_merge Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:00   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 09/12] xfs: refactor the ioend merging code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:04   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24 16:06   ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-06-25 10:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 12:42       ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-06-25 14:45         ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 10/12] xfs: remove the fork fields in the writepage_ctx and ioend Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 16:08   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 11/12] iomap: move the xfs writeback code to iomap.c Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 15:46   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-25 10:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 23:43   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-06-25 10:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-28  0:45       ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-28  5:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-28  5:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-01  0:08           ` Dave Chinner
2019-07-01  6:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-01 23:09               ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-28 22:27         ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-07-11 21:31           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-06-24  5:52 ` [PATCH 12/12] iomap: add tracing for the address space operations Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-24 23:49   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-25 10:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:47       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-27 22:35       ` Dave Chinner

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