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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw pcspk
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:03:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200622140354.cin36ds36nwn2khu@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4df07eb8-0352-3976-67a2-d49a4fb482da@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 03:22:05PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 22/06/20 14:59, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >> +static int pcspk_audio_init_soundhw(ISABus *bus)
> >> +{
> >> +    PCSpkState *s = pcspk_state;
> >> +
> >> +    warn_report("'-soundhw pcspk' is deprecated, "
> >> +                "please set a backend using '-global isa-pcspk.audiodev=<name>' instead");
> >> +    return pcspk_audio_init(s);
> >> +}
> > While "-soundhw pcspk" is quite easy to use for the average user, I
> > think the "-global" options will be quite hard to figure out, especially
> > once this deprecation message got removed again when -soundhw has been
> > deleted. Could you maybe add a description how to configure the
> > pc-speaker to docs/system/target-i386-desc.rst.inc, too?
> 
> -nic is an example of how a single option can work great for both
> built-in and custom devices, and perhaps we could design something like
> that for audio.  For example you could have
> 
> 	# configure a builtin or default audio device
> 	# and an ALSA audiodev
> 	-sound alsa
> 
> 	# configure an external audio device and a PA audiodev
> 	# options other than "model" go to audiodev
> 	-sound pa,model=sb16,fixed-settings=off
> 
> For more information: https://www.qemu.org/2018/05/31/nic-parameter/
> 
> I think we can go ahead with the deprecation, but -global and -device
> are probably not good enough a replacement for actual removal.

-global is temporary, see patch 19/19 (guess I should reorder the series
and squash 19/19 to fix that confusion).

The plan is to have audio work simliar to block.  -audiodev creates a
backend (like -blockdev).  Properties are used to reference them.
Device properties in most cases, machine properties for builtin devices
(i.e. pcspk works like pflash then).

take care,
  Gerd



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-22 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-22 11:28 [PATCH v3 00/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:28 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] stubs: add isa_create_simple Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:28 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] stubs: add pci_create_simple Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:28 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] audio: add deprecated_register_soundhw Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:28 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw ac97 Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw es1370 Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw adlib Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw cs4231a Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw gus Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw sb16 Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw hda Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] audio: deprecate -soundhw pcspk Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 12:59   ` Thomas Huth
2020-06-22 13:07     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-22 13:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 13:22     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 14:03       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2020-06-22 14:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 13:38     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] audio: add soundhw deprecation notice Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:42   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-22 12:12     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] pc_basic_device_init: pass PCMachineState Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] pc_basic_device_init: drop has_pit arg Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] pc_basic_device_init: drop no_vmport arg Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] softmmu: initialize spice and audio earlier Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] audio: rework pcspk_init() Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] audio: create pcspk device early, add audiodev alias Gerd Hoffmann
2020-06-22 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] audio: set default value for pcspk.iobase property Gerd Hoffmann

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