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From: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 8/9] commit: use config-based hooks
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 14:27:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201005212751.GH331156@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200923234734.1294057-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 04:47:34PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> > -	if (!no_verify && find_hook("pre-commit")) {
> > +	if (!no_verify && hook_exists("pre-commit")) {
> 
> A reviewer would probably need to look at all instances of "pre-commit"
> (and likewise for the other hooks) but if the plan is to convert all
> hooks, then the reviewer wouldn't need to do this since we could just
> delete the "find_hook" function.
> 
> Overall comments about the design and scope of the patch set:
> 
>  - I think that the abilities of the current patch set regarding
>    overriding order of globally-set hook commands is sufficient. We
>    should also have some way of disabling globally-set hooks, perhaps
>    by implementing the "skip" variable mentioned in patch 1 or by
>    allowing the redefinition of hookcmd sections (e.g. by redefining a
>    command to "/usr/bin/true"). To me, these provide substantial
>    user-facing value, and would be sufficient for a first version - and
>    other things like parallelization can come later.

OK. I will send 'skip' in the next reroll. Thanks for pointing it out!

> 
>  - As for the UI that should be exposed through the "git hook" command,
>    I think that "git hook list" and "git hook run" are sufficient.
>    Editing the config files are not too difficult, and "git hook add"
>    etc. can be added later.
> 
>  - As for whether (1) it is OK for none of the hooks to be converted (and
>    instead rely on the user to edit their hook scripts to call "git hook
>    run ???"), or if (2) we should require some hooks to be
>    converted, or if (3) we should require all hooks to be converted: I'd
>    rather have (2) or (3) so that we don't have dead code. I prefer (3),
>    especially since a reviewer wouldn't have to worry about leftover
>    usages of old functions like find_hook() (as I mentioned at the start
>    of this email), but I'm not fully opposed to (2) either.

I personally prefer (3) - I think the user experience with (2) in a
release (or even in 'next', which all Googlers use) is pretty bad. The
downside, of course, is that a large topic gets merged all at once and
makes some pretty nasty reviewer overhead.

Junio, I wonder if you can give any advice here? What would be really
ideal for me would be to do something like Stolee has been doing with
his maintenance series - config-based hooks pt. I containing the library
code and config-based hooks pt. II containing the conversion of
preexisting hooks. Does that make the overhead for you significantly
worse?

 - Emily

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-05 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 18:54 [PATCH v2 0/4] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:13   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 20:26     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:27   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 21:49     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-08-17 13:36       ` Phillip Wood
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-27 23:37     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-25  0:29     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-28 22:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] parse-options: parse into argv_array Emily Shaffer
2020-07-29 19:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-30 23:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49   ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 1/9] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-09-24 21:54         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-07  9:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-22  0:58         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-23 19:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-29 15:38             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-29 20:04               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 2/9] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:24       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:06         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 3/9] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:27       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 16:51         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-06 20:46         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-27 19:23       ` Martin Ågren
2020-10-06 20:20         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:27       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 4/9] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 5/9] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:30       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06  4:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 6/9] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:30       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-10-05 23:39       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 22:57         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 7/9] hook: replace run-command.h:find_hook Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09 20:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-10 19:08         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:20       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 23:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 8/9] commit: use config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 13:50       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-10 22:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-23 23:47       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 21:27         ` Emily Shaffer [this message]
2020-10-05 23:48           ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:08             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 9/9] run_commit_hook: take strvec instead of varargs Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 14:16       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 13:20         ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-09 21:04     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Junio C Hamano
2020-10-14 23:24     ` [PATCH v5 0/8] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 1/8] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-10-15 16:31         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-16 17:29           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 23:37           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 2/8] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 3/8] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 4/8] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 5/8] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 6/8] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 7/8] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 8/8] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45       ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-11 10:15           ` Phillip Wood
2020-12-15 21:41             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2020-12-08 21:09           ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-12-08 22:11             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16  0:34         ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Josh Steadmon
2020-12-16  0:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 20:16             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16 23:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  2:07                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-18  5:29                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22  0:02         ` [PATCH v7 " Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2021-01-23 15:38             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-29 23:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01 22:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-10 19:30               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:10             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 21:06               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:20             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:05               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:35             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:31               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:40             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:57               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:22             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-11 22:44               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:39             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-12 22:15               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-18 22:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  5:38             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-19 20:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 21:46               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:51             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 23:38               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-23 19:33                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-10 18:24                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  7:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-23 19:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-25 20:56                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-02  1:47                   ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-02 23:33                     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  2:11           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 18:34             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:50               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 22:37           ` [PATCH v3 18/17] doc: make git-hook.txt point of truth Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:39             ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-29 23:59           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2021-02-16 19:46           ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-16 22:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-17 21:21               ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-17 23:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-25 19:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-01 21:51                     ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-01 22:19                       ` Junio C Hamano

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