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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	tj@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru,
	daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org, lkp@intel.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, richard.weiyang@gmail.com,
	kirill@shutemov.name, alexander.duyck@gmail.com,
	rong.a.chen@intel.com, mhocko@suse.com, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	shy828301@gmail.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v20 15/20] mm/lru: introduce TestClearPageLRU
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 10:10:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201102151008.GH724984@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1603968305-8026-16-git-send-email-alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:45:00PM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> Currently lru_lock still guards both lru list and page's lru bit, that's
> ok. but if we want to use specific lruvec lock on the page, we need to
> pin down the page's lruvec/memcg during locking. Just taking lruvec
> lock first may be undermined by the page's memcg charge/migration. To
> fix this problem, we could clear the lru bit out of locking and use
> it as pin down action to block the page isolation in memcg changing.

Small nit, but the use of "could" in this sentence sounds like you're
describing one possible solution that isn't being taken, when in fact
you are describing the chosen locking mechanism.

Replacing "could" with "will" would make things a bit clearer IMO.

> So now a standard steps of page isolation is following:
> 	1, get_page(); 	       #pin the page avoid to be free
> 	2, TestClearPageLRU(); #block other isolation like memcg change
> 	3, spin_lock on lru_lock; #serialize lru list access
> 	4, delete page from lru list;
> The step 2 could be optimzed/replaced in scenarios which page is
> unlikely be accessed or be moved between memcgs.

This is a bit ominous. I'd either elaborate / provide an example /
clarify why some sites can deal with races - or just remove that
sentence altogether from this part of the changelog.

> This patch start with the first part: TestClearPageLRU, which combines
> PageLRU check and ClearPageLRU into a macro func TestClearPageLRU. This
> function will be used as page isolation precondition to prevent other
> isolations some where else. Then there are may !PageLRU page on lru
> list, need to remove BUG() checking accordingly.
> 
> There 2 rules for lru bit now:
> 1, the lru bit still indicate if a page on lru list, just in some
>    temporary moment(isolating), the page may have no lru bit when
>    it's on lru list.  but the page still must be on lru list when the
>    lru bit set.
> 2, have to remove lru bit before delete it from lru list.
> 
> As Andrew Morton mentioned this change would dirty cacheline for page
> isn't on LRU. But the lost would be acceptable in Rong Chen
> <rong.a.chen@intel.com> report:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200304090301.GB5972@shao2-debian/
> 
> Suggested-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Signed-off-by: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
> Acked-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
> Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org

Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-02 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29 10:44 [PATCH v20 00/20] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 01/20] mm/memcg: warning on !memcg after readahead page charged Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 02/20] mm/memcg: bail early from swap accounting if memcg disabled Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:46   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30  2:27     ` Alex Shi
2020-10-30  2:27       ` Alex Shi
2020-10-30 14:04       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30 14:04         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-31  1:13         ` Alex Shi
2020-10-31  1:13           ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 03/20] mm/thp: move lru_add_page_tail func to huge_memory.c Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:47   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 04/20] mm/thp: use head for head page in lru_add_page_tail Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:50   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 13:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30  2:46     ` Alex Shi
2020-10-30  2:46       ` Alex Shi
2020-10-30 13:52       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30 13:52         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-31  1:14         ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 16:03       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-03  2:43         ` Alex Shi
2020-11-03  2:43           ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 05/20] mm/thp: Simplify lru_add_page_tail() Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 14:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30  2:48   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-30  2:48     ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 06/20] mm/thp: narrow lru locking Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 07/20] mm/vmscan: remove unnecessary lruvec adding Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:20   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 08/20] mm: page_idle_get_page() does not need lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:41   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 14:49     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-02 14:49       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-02 20:20       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-04 11:27         ` Alex Shi
2020-11-04 11:27           ` Alex Shi
2020-11-04 17:46           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-04 17:46             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-05  4:52             ` Alex Shi
2020-11-05  4:57               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-05  4:57                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-05  5:03                 ` Alex Shi
2020-11-05  5:03                   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-05 15:36                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-05 15:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-05 15:43                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-05 15:43                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06  1:11                     ` Alex Shi
2020-11-06  1:11                       ` Alex Shi
2020-11-11  7:27     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-11-11  7:27       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 09/20] mm/memcg: add debug checking in lock_page_memcg Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:45   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 14:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 10/20] mm/swap.c: fold vm event PGROTATED into pagevec_move_tail_fn Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:48   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 11/20] mm/lru: move lock into lru_note_cost Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:42   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 13:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 12/20] mm/vmscan: remove lruvec reget in move_pages_to_lru Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:52   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 14:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-03  2:51     ` Alex Shi
2020-11-03  2:51       ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 13/20] mm/mlock: remove lru_lock on TestClearPageMlocked Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:55   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 14:55     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 14/20] mm/mlock: remove __munlock_isolate_lru_page Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 14:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 15/20] mm/lru: introduce TestClearPageLRU Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 15:10   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2020-11-03  3:02     ` Alex Shi
2020-11-03  3:02       ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 16/20] mm/compaction: do page isolation first in compaction Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 15:18   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 15:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 17/20] mm/swap.c: serialize memcg changes in pagevec_lru_move_fn Alex Shi
2020-11-02 15:20   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 15:20     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 18/20] mm/lru: replace pgdat lru_lock with lruvec lock Alex Shi
2020-10-30  2:49   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 20:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 20:41       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-03  4:58       ` Alex Shi
2020-11-03  4:58         ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 19/20] mm/lru: introduce the relock_page_lruvec function Alex Shi
2020-11-02 20:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-02 20:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 20/20] mm/lru: revise the comments of lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-11-02 20:46   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-04 11:55 ` [PATCH v20 00/20] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
2020-11-04 11:55   ` Alex Shi
2020-11-04 16:59   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-04 16:59     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-05  5:07     ` Alex Shi
2020-11-05  5:07       ` Alex Shi

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